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beton 22nd February 2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by macs
Beton, I've just reread your post as I was running late for my last appointment when I replied before. Ha, you mention truth, I've been working along side, with but never for corporations for over 20 years and I can't remember that word ever being spoken, I don't think it exists in their vocabulary does it?

Thanks for taking the time for the comprehensive post, I will most certainly stash those ideas away for a rainy day which I think maybe fast approaching.

Shout we will Foxwood, if it was 600 bucks I wouldn't care, 600K will change my boys life.

As I said before, "It's not his money UNTIL it is taken off the table". It sounds that the only way it can be taken off the table is to shout, scream, kick, punch and bite. If you want a lesson, I'll sent the war office around.
What I gave was the 2013 gentleman's way of using bovverboots.

Be prepared to accept something a long way short of $600K.

The bottom line is your boy has talent. Which is absolutely worthless if he cannot play in straight games and get his money off the table. The only positive outcome is that that he can play and get his money out. The exercise can then be called experience. Any other outcome can only be called fruitless.

The Ocho 22nd February 2013 05:37 PM

It's not like I don't believe your telling the truth, macs, it's just that when your talking about that amount of money, well it is hard to believe.

How old is your son? Why didn't his mum withdraw the money?

It doesn't sound fare at all that they can just pocket all the money (even any of it). They get paid enough for their vig as it is.

I don't understand them. If your son can really play poker then they should be signing him up for all the tournaments around the world rather than Warney who can't be a very good player.

macs 22nd February 2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beton
The bottom line is your boy has talent. Which is absolutely worthless if he cannot play in straight games and get his money off the table. The only positive outcome is that that he can play and get his money out. The exercise can then be called experience. Any other outcome can only be called fruitless.
So true Beeton. He's been talking this evening about attempting to go up through the ranks in something like the Australian Poker League off line so I'm glad he's not in to alcohol :) It's early days and he's still a wee bit emotional about the whole string of events so we'll just sit tight and see what happens. Thanks again for your input.

macs 22nd February 2013 06:19 PM

It's harder to believe from where I'm sat I can tell you TO! He's 22, 23 this year. If the poker account name and bank account owner name doesn't match good luck with getting one red cent transferred to anywhere.

"I don't understand them. If your son can really play poker then they should be signing him up for all the tournaments around the world rather than Warney who can't be a very good player."

He accumulated this in less than 2 days TO, at the moment he is just another PITA new client that nobody knows about. We're hoping we can change that by the amount he's won but who knows.

I'm not saying anymore in public now until this is resolved one way or another, thanks everyone for your support.

The Ocho 22nd February 2013 06:50 PM

Sounds like to me that he can just sign up at another room under his own name and away he goes. If he has already signed up at most rooms but doesn't remember his sign in details just email the accounts departments about reinstating his accounts or ask if he can just open a new account. They don't normally turn back new or returning players.

I'm still flabbergasted how well he went in 2 days but I'm not sure he should get too cocky though because it's the same as anything - 2 days does not a summer make.

Good luck with the withdrawal and I can leave some comments for you if you take up beton's suggestion.

macs 22nd February 2013 07:18 PM

Thanks TO.

The Ocho 1st March 2013 06:19 AM

For the sake of closure of this thread, I was wondering how you went, macs, with getting some/all of your son's money out? I hope you did okay as no news is good news (usually).

macs 1st March 2013 02:59 PM

It's far from closed TO. When it takes a corporate 6 days to reply to one email these things are going to take time. At least they prepared to look in to it according to their first reply which is far more than some corporates I've come across will do. However, do I feel confident, nope but I've grilled my son and son in law for the last week or so to make sure they are absolutely positive of their facts and they are so I'll stand behind them until it's closed one way or another. Screen shots in real time don't lie.

I'll let this thread know the result one way or another but I wouldn't hold your breath, it could take months.

The Ocho 1st March 2013 06:07 PM

Okay thanks macs. Go get 'em tiger!

moeee 1st March 2013 08:59 PM

The Ocho - did you ever win a million dollars on Poker? - Even play money?

The Ocho 1st March 2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moeee
The Ocho - did you ever win a million dollars on Poker? - Even play money?

No. I used to be what they called a bonus whore just going to different poker rooms and playing for the sign up and reload bonuses until the terms became stricter and you had to play a lot more hands to win anything.

It was a bit like my trading as I turned $12 into $3000 over a year or two (I actually don't remember how long now :oops" ), took some money out to set up my garden railway :) and other things, but then tried to play on my merits. Suffice to say I had $50 left when I started my horse racing and Betfair adventure first time around.

I still play a sit n go 4 or 5 nights a week currently for the grand buy in of 11 cents (or 30 cents if I'm feeling adventurous). :D :(

I finished 2nd one night in a pub league once (with 66 players). Only won points though.

Have you won that much moeee?

moeee 1st March 2013 10:21 PM

No I haven't Ocho.
I don't even play Poker , but i did used to about 6 years ago , but only so I could chat up the sheilas online.

But I tell you one thing.
I pretty sure i worked it out one time.
If I had back every cent I lost on the horses and dogs over all my Life , It would be mighty close to a million dollars , if not more.
And that was when a million dollars was actually worth a million dollars.

Barny 2nd March 2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by macs
I've got a 22 year old son who has quite an amazing talent when it comes to poker but he's finding it real tough listening to his old man when it comes to money management. I've seen him turn miniscule amounts of money in to thousands only to get up the next morning and see it gone.

I don't know much about poker but I'm sure the money management aspect is pretty similar to the strategies all you semi and professional punters use on here and I'd be real grateful for any comments, advice etc that I can show him from others rather than his ol' man being in his ear all the time. He just might believe a few people that have been there done that over many years.

The reason I ask right now is because he's very recently come to live at home again for a few months and because he wanted to pay his way whilst he was here (he lost his job and refuses point blank to go on the rock and roll) he threw me 50 bucks and asked me to put it in his 888 Poker account via my bank account which I did.

In less than 24 hours he's turned that in to $73K (I wouldn't have believed it either if I hadn't seen it for myself) so this time I'd love him to keep it rather than thinking he's 10 foot tall and bullet proof.

I know this is not about horse racing but I'd be very grateful for any money management comments so maybe he will listen to seasoned professionals.

If there's one thing I've learned it's this. Everyone has their own individual personality, your son has his, and it's his personality that enables him to win at poker. It's a unique talent. If he changes as you want him to then he won't be doing the thing (conscious and subconscious) that enables him to win. It smacks of arrogance that there are people who cannot win at poker that are only too willing to provide advice to someone who can. And before you say that money management isn't part of winning at poker, or what we're talking about here ..... take a few minutes to have a think first.

macs 2nd March 2013 12:48 PM

I doubt he'll change much Barny. He's been playing around on my account on Zynga Poker the last few days, I had about 220,000 chips in there, I look at it the next morning and there's 575 million, morning after that 13,000 lol. "I was just trying to get you a billion Dad" and the usual cheesy grin :).

jose 2nd March 2013 02:08 PM

" If I had back every cent I lost on the horses and dogs over all my Life "

I could win a small casket and still be behind them.
Sad but true.

OM SHARNTEE 10th August 2013 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OM SHARNTEE
Hi macs

Any chance of an update to this incrdible story.
Cheers

The Ocho 10th August 2013 10:53 AM

OH that was macs. For some reason in another thread I thought it was kiwi.

I too would like to know what happened macs.


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