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schmucta80 6th August 2009 11:28 AM

so that shows that last start within 8 days is better up to say 1800m?

the horse recovers better in that time frame then if over a longer journey. Interesting, i had thought that but never had the stats to back it up

Shaun 6th August 2009 11:29 AM

<8
<1 Lgth
<$4
>20%
<1800
3..6 yo
Sel 680
Wins 281
SR 41.32%
Return 749.20
P.O.T 10.18%

schmucta80 6th August 2009 11:36 AM

Thanks Shaun, hope i did not take up too much of your time, if i went through all my thoughts and filters you would be at it all day

Shaun 6th August 2009 11:43 AM

Yes i bet i would, as you can see from what i have listed the best filters to start with.


The problem with all this is the limited selection and the possible outs between winners i will show you some figures for 12 months based on the best system from above

Shaun 6th August 2009 12:43 PM

<8 Days Break
<$4
<1
3...6
Sel 1475
Wins 588
SR 39.86%
Return 1611.30
P.O.T 9.24%

Code:
-----Bets Wins Return Jan07 13 5 12.1 Feb07 6 1 2.7 Mar07 18 7 20.90 Apr07 20 8 19.50 May07 13 7 20.30 Jun07 17 6 14.90 Jul07 19 5 16.30 Aug07 17 8 19 Sep07 14 6 14.90 Oct07 7 1 3.60 Nov07 15 4 10.60 Dec07 12 6 17.40 Total 171 64 172.20

schmucta80 6th August 2009 12:45 PM

is that all days or just metrop?

Does that include 2nd and 3rd up horses?

Shaun 6th August 2009 12:51 PM

Thats all days, maybe better just metro but it would reduce the amount of bets.

schmucta80 6th August 2009 12:55 PM

ok, one thing I have never been sold on is the price angle. There are lots of variants with this, do you take SP, or do you trust the totes at start time, if so which one, Pre-post, all those things. I have always thought that gettin a system to work without this angle, using other filters, might work better. Then you would also not limit yourself to what price the winners are that you could hit.

Tell me to quit when ever you want lol, I could be at this for aslong as anyone wants to discuss it. Its the most promising angle I have seen as a starting tool for ages

Shaun 6th August 2009 01:19 PM

Price is the true indication of chance, the database uses closing tab price not sure what TAB Chrome could answer that, yes you could target horses at higher prices and get winners even make a profit long term i am only looking at what i know has made a profit over time maybe not every year but has made a profit and the figures do not lie the shorter priced horses win more often and last start winners or those with in 1 length that raced in the last 7 days have a high strike rate at the expense of lots of bets.

If you want to back horses based on the price the bookies are best to follow as they are in the business of making money. money in the TAB pools is not always the right money to follow.

schmucta80 6th August 2009 01:23 PM

True True, but it is still only one persons opinion (PP) or even lots of peoples opinions (TAB) but if we can somehow get the results to show good profit levels without this filter, then the statistics will override those opinions, and we could be gettin some value if we are on a different opinion path due to what the other filters decide for us.

Can't argue with your findings though, I guess I just like the thought of a system that throws up a 20/1 shot every second week haha


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