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darkydog2002 11th January 2012 07:45 PM

Just todays Race Distance Mark.
Cheers
darky

Mark 11th January 2012 08:32 PM

Which leaves us with 4 selections/lays.....

norisk 11th January 2012 08:37 PM

Expanded the criteria a bit & came up with this for the last 18 months or so -

Races 2100 &>
Last Start Winner - if more than one in field selection is shortest SP
Field Size - any
All states except SA & TAS
Filters
- exclude all rising 4.5kg or more - (nice win system there if you like 1 bet a month;))
- exclude all 3yo fillies - Oaks & the like
- maximum SP $20 (there were no winners over $20 but as a layer I just don't go there)

Selections - 399
Return less 5% comm $562
POT 41%
Winner s/r 14.3%

Not too shabby, someone with a more exhaustive db might want to chip in as I did record a couple of bad losing periods within the 18 months.

The Ocho 11th January 2012 08:40 PM

It depends which "system" you're using but if following Bhagwans first system results then all 4 LSW horses should have been layed which would have resulted in a loss as the winner was $6.08 on Betfair SP.

OR, using the second system

Numbers 2 & 4 were over $6 on Betfair so should both have been layed however number 6 (the winner of the race) was also over $6 on Betfair SP ($6.08). This would also have resulted in a loss in this race for an extra unit than the first system.

Why have you listed only one horse DD?

Bhagwan 12th January 2012 02:30 AM

Hi Darky.
This technique of laying is probably the safest to use.

Divide the runners price into a payout figure.

Example.
Payout fig. say $30
Price say 6.00
30/6 = O/L $5.00

If we get bit = we lose 5.00 x 5/1 (6.00) = 25.00
If it falls over for us - we win $5.00

Bhagwan 12th January 2012 02:56 AM

I will expand betting to price further.

If 1.50 / 30.00 = O/L 20
Liability if it wins 20 x .50 (1.50) = -10.00
$20 profit if it falls over for us.

If 20.0 / 30.00 = O/L 1.50
Liability if it wins 1.50 x 19/1 (20.00) = -19.00
$1.50 profit if it falls over for us.


Its the same technique Bookies use to frame their market when laying the field to their book percentage.

darkydog2002 12th January 2012 07:54 AM

Thanks Bgahwan.
Cheers
darky

norisk 12th January 2012 01:13 PM

Selection today using the criteria I outlined above -

Gosford R6 No2 Straight Albert - there are 2 other ls winners, No's 4&12, however No2 look like will start the shortest.

norisk 12th January 2012 05:23 PM

ouch, got smacked first up;)

darkydog2002 14th January 2012 09:59 AM

Ocho.
"why did I have ONLY 1 horse."
It was a mistake on my part.I was thinking in terms of the other system.
Cheers
darky


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