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michaelg 20th December 2012 12:13 PM

Today's selections:

Wyong
1/3, 11, 14
2/16
7/15

Rocky
1/5, 8
2/8
7/13

Seymour
4/5
7/7

Albany
2/3
3/2, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15
4/1, 4
5/10, 12
7/6

Moonee Valley
3/2


Isn't today according to the Mayan calender the end of the world?

The Ocho 20th December 2012 01:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Isn't today according to the Mayan calender the end of the world?


Nah, don't worry about it. That's tomorrow. ;)

Lord Greystoke 20th December 2012 01:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
Nah, don't worry about it. That's tomorrow. ;)


You must be an optimist !

Cheers LG

beton 20th December 2012 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
Nah, don't worry about it. That's tomorrow. ;)

If it happens it will show those naysayers something. Without plan A the believers are not going to be around to gloat

lomaca 20th December 2012 02:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
Nah, don't worry about it. That's tomorrow. ;)
The O
That's the way I look at it too.

But to dispel the myth and with it the secret hope of many, the calendar doesn't in fact signifies the end of the world but the end of a cycle.
Slight but significant difference.
Like winning or losing, both are part of punting.

SpeedyBen 20th December 2012 02:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Yes, the prices on the exchange and S.P. are almost identical.

However, on S.P. the horse is layed on liability.

If a horse's price is $10 it can be layed on the exchange for the minimum of $5 which means that if it wins the race the layer pays $45 to the backer.

However, on S.P. it can be layed for the minimum of $30. If the horse is beaten the layer gets about $3 ($30 divided by 10) from the backer, and if it's price is $300 the layer wins about $0.10 from a lay-bet of $30 ($300 divided by 30) but he can only lose the outlay of $30.

In other words, the layer nominates how much he can lose on S.P but on the exchange he nominates how much he can win.

If one is not familiar with laying S.P. it can at first be quite complicated.
Michael
I lay to a liability every day ( and night ) on the exchange. There are several products which you can use. Evolution is free and i can't believe anyone would use BF's interface in preference to Evo once they try it. Evo doesn't do SP tho.
When I read your reply to my post #104 I thought you must have been under the impression that you couldn't lay to a liability on the exchange but wasn't sure.

michaelg 20th December 2012 03:14 PM

Speedy Ben,

not knowing about bots but from what I read here about them I got the impression that they all only applied to the exchange and not S.P.

stugots 20th December 2012 03:59 PM

Betting Assistant can be used to make SP backs & lays

Lord Greystoke 20th December 2012 04:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca

But to dispel the myth and with it the secret hope of many, the calendar doesn't in fact signifies the end of the world but the end of a cycle.
Slight but significant difference.
Like winning or losing, both are part of punting.


That's my take on it too... this could be all about: Out with the old, in with the new. A major turning point - whatever that relates to may well be down to one's own personal perception(s)?

We shall see !

Cheers LG

Lord Greystoke 20th December 2012 04:13 PM

PS

Atlas Shrugged,
And kept the world spinning on his shoulders for another 24 hours at least, whilst he had a think..

Here's to the next chapter chaps, and perhaps a wee drink?

LG

rails run 20th December 2012 07:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
Nah, don't worry about it. That's tomorrow. ;)
-ANNOUNCEMENT-
Due to the end of the world this Friday, December 21st, 2012, Tabcorp can not guarantee fulfilling payouts on any future Jackpots arising from exotic wagers placed on this date. In the likely event of a big wad of cash sitting in our fat account our policy is that withheld monies will be divided amongst members of the Board for maintenance of the Tabcorp bunker in an undisclosed location. The Board would like to thank you for your contribution over the years and wish you a very fast apocalypse.

SpeedyBen 20th December 2012 09:21 PM

Will it be after the races are finished, do you know?

The Ocho 20th December 2012 10:52 PM

And just when I think I've found the holy grail.

Oh crap!!

Toil 20th December 2012 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rails run
-ANNOUNCEMENT-
Due to the end of the world this Friday, December 21st, 2012, Tabcorp can not guarantee fulfilling payouts on any future Jackpots arising from exotic wagers placed on this date. In the likely event of a big wad of cash sitting in our fat account our policy is that withheld monies will be divided amongst members of the Board for maintenance of the Tabcorp bunker in an undisclosed location. The Board would like to thank you for your contribution over the years and wish you a very fast apocalypse.


Hehe wd funny.

michaelg 21st December 2012 07:10 AM

Yesterday there were 22 smiles from the 22 selections for a profit of $13.39.

Do we know exactly how and when the world will end? And if so, is it Daylight Savings time or not? I've forgotten but didn't our beloved P.M. state this a week or so ago even though some people believed she was joshing us? Should I prepare today's selections for lay D.S's Outsiders method just when I thought yesterday's profit of $13.39 was putting the method back on track. Oh, what to do? It is too confusing and upsetting, I wish it was all over right now.

The Ocho 21st December 2012 07:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Yesterday there were 22 smiles from the 22 selections for a profit of $13.39.

Do we know exactly how and when the world will end? And if so, is it Daylight Savings time or not? I've forgotten but didn't our beloved P.M. state this a week or so ago even though some people believed she was joshing us? Should I prepare today's selections for lay D.S's Outsiders method just when I thought yesterday's profit of $13.39 was putting the method back on track. Oh, what to do? It is too confusing and upsetting, I wish it was all over right now.

I think they said midnight on 21 Dec 2012 Mayan time so for us that would be tomorrow some time so you might as well list today's selections.

jose 21st December 2012 07:41 AM

" our beloved P.M. "

Thought you were a Trinadadian(?) MG.

No matter though, we are all doomed sometime today apparently.

michaelg 21st December 2012 08:01 AM

Thanks, T.O. but I am now even more upset because I've got another 24 hours of this excrutiating suffering. Ah well be positive, it'll soon be all over. In spite of that I'm still concerned that there's no horse racing in the afterlife...does anyone know the answer to this?

Jose, I'm only Trinidadian when the West Indies are playing cricket, especially when they are winning.

Lord Greystoke 21st December 2012 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Thanks, T.O. but I am now even more upset because I've got another 24 hours of this excrutiating suffering. Ah well be positive, it'll soon be all over. In spite of that I'm still concerned that there's no horse racing in the afterlife...does anyone know the answer to this?



Think you will find there is plenty of action out there. Very poor internet connection however so bit difficult to check the results. Ho hum, bit of a bu**er!

LG

TheSchmile 21st December 2012 09:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Yesterday there were 22 smiles from the 22 selections for a profit of $13.39.

Do we know exactly how and when the world will end? And if so, is it Daylight Savings time or not? I've forgotten but didn't our beloved P.M. state this a week or so ago even though some people believed she was joshing us? Should I prepare today's selections for lay D.S's Outsiders method just when I thought yesterday's profit of $13.39 was putting the method back on track. Oh, what to do? It is too confusing and upsetting, I wish it was all over right now.

Hi Michaelg,

In the situation I was facing, to the point of desperation, where I just simply couldn't find an answer, I consulted the calender and predictions of 'Bernie'. According to his prophecies, our lives actually ended as we know it, the very second we filled out our first TAB ticket or had a casual flutter at the track. So in truth our lives have already ended and we are merely killing time in a world of suspended reality, where the only things that matter are the punt, a good tipple and the love of a fine feline. :D

On a brighter note, I managed to squeeze in 10 pints and get a leg over last night, all due to the possibility of the world ending.

On a more serious note, whatever happens, please don't end the world before before the last leg of the Quaddie at Canterbury tonight. Pppppplease!!!!!........

michaelg 21st December 2012 12:01 PM

TheSchmile, I hope you get time to spend the winnings from tonight's Canterbury's quaddie, so too all winning punters because we can't take it with us.

Today's selections:

Canterbury
1/1, 2
2/2
4/7
5/9
8/4

Moonee Valley
5/10
6/2
7/3, 9

Geraldton
3/1, 5, 14
5/6
6/5
7/6, 7

Wagga
1/5, 13
3/10, 16, 17
4/5
6/7, 9

Lismore
3/7, 12
6/8, 15, 18
7/8, 9, 13

Wangaratta
2/1, 2, 4, 10
3/11
4/1, 7
7/8
8/10, 11

Ipswich
1/5, 10, 11
3/1, 13
4/11, 13
5/8, 10, 11
6/9, 12
7/8

The Ocho 21st December 2012 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Greystoke
Think you will find there is plenty of action out there. Very poor internet connection however so bit difficult to check the results. Ho hum, bit of a bu**er!

LG

LG - I think they have a cloud server or two up there so the inter-galactic-net should be pretty good.

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Thanks, T.O. but I am now even more upset because I've got another 24 hours of this excrutiating suffering. Ah well be positive, it'll soon be all over. In spite of that I'm still concerned that there's no horse racing in the afterlife...does anyone know the answer to this?


MG - I think there are a few good horses going around up there like Phar Lap, Carbine, Seabiscuit, Dufflecoat Supreme and Mr Ed to name just a few. Should make for an interesting race or two although they've all had a pretty decent spell.

jose 21st December 2012 04:42 PM

" Jose, I'm only Trinidadian when the West Indies are playing cricket, especially when they are winning. "

Fair enough. Long time no drinks tho.

michaelg 21st December 2012 04:51 PM

Yes, they would've died of thirst a long time ago, but fortunately they won the 20/20 World Cup just a few months ago.

I didn't have a bet, didn't have the courage to do so.

jose 21st December 2012 05:05 PM

Can't go the 20/20 game myself MG.
Alright for those with an attention span of a goldfish IMHO.
Don't mind the one day game, but much prefer the 5 day game. Bit more like "Cricket" if you will.

Having said that, it would have suited your boys down to the ground about 25 years ago, Viv, big Joel, etc.

michaelg 21st December 2012 07:45 PM

Hi, Jose. I like all the three forms of cricket. One of my friends (Aussie) is very disappointed if a Test match ends in a draw even if Australia comes from an impossible position to attain the draw. He says a draw is a waste of five days.

I don't know if I can agree with the "attention span" theory. I remember some time ago reading in a Pommie magazine that the reason why we Aussies like the rugby codes and not football is that we have a short attention span especially when it comes to low scoring games.

jose 21st December 2012 09:21 PM

To each his own I suppose MG.
Some of the great contests have ended in draws, again IMHO.
I tend to be a bit old fashioned though.

Toil 22nd December 2012 12:02 AM

Well its midnight, I can say I've managed to have a laugh after having read the last dozen posts so all good if nothing else lol.

michaelg 22nd December 2012 06:55 AM

Yes, Jose, to each his own.

Yesterday there were 55 smiles from the 56 selections for a profit of $31.26.

To date (15 days) there have been 451 smiles from 552 selections for a profit of $75.46.

michaelg 22nd December 2012 07:34 AM

A correction. The above posting should read 541 (not 451) smiles from 552 selections. Maybe the relief of the world not ending overnight has affected my typing.

michaelg 22nd December 2012 11:55 AM

Today's selections:

Warwick Farm
6/5, 13
7/4

Dombeen
2/6
8/19

M'ville
6/2
8/9, 15

Darwin
4/6

Kembla
1/12
4/6, 13
5/7, 11
7/11

Hobart
4/3, 9, 10, 12
5/4, 8
7/10

Moree
6/16

Gold Coast
2/1, 7, 9, 10
7/9, 10
8/11, 12

Toowoomba
2/4, 10
3/10
4/5, 6, 10
5/8

Ascot
6/14, 15, 16
7/4, 10, 11

michaelg 23rd December 2012 07:13 AM

From yesterday's 42 selections there were 41 smiles for a profit of $14.02.

michaelg 23rd December 2012 11:54 AM

Today's selections;

Taree
1/9
3/8, 10
4/12
6/2, 7

Sun Coast
3/10
5/7, 11, 12
7/13, 14
8/2

Queanbeyn
4/4, 6, 8, 10
5/5, 6, 12
6/10

Ballarat
2/3
3/4,12
4/3, 12
8/13

Horsham
3/10
6/6, 10, 12, 13
7/13

Port Lincoln
6/9
7/3, 10
8/7

Bunbury
1/2
2/11, 12, 14
3/1, 11
4/7, 8, 12
5/10
7/2, 4, 9

michaelg 23rd December 2012 08:12 PM

A good day. There were 49 smiles from the 49 selections for a profit of $36.86.

There have now been 631 smiles from 643 selections for a profit of $126.34. It's still maintaining it's strike rate of 98%.

michaelg 24th December 2012 12:42 PM

Today's selections:

Tamworth
1/6
2/5
3/3, 15
4/11, 13
6/10, 11

Orange
2/6, 8, 10
5/11
6/11
7/2, 12

Sale
3/3
4/7, 10
7/3, 11
8/12, 14

michaelg 24th December 2012 05:38 PM

From today's 22 selections there were 22 smiles for a profit of $15.93.

michaelg 26th December 2012 12:40 PM

Today's selections:

Rosehill
4/5
7/15
8/15, 19

Caulfield
8/7

Eagle Farm
4/7

Morphetville
5/4, 14, 16
7/2
8/12

Wodonga
3/1
6/11, 14

Newcastle
1/6
4/4, 12
5/1, 7, 12, 13

Ballina
3/10
4/4, 7, 12, 13
5/7, 11

Devenport
3/8, 10, 11, 12
4/2
7/4, 8, 9

Pinjarra
5/10, 13, 14, 17, 18
7/11, 12

Geelong
4/1, 4
6/7

michaelg 26th December 2012 03:27 PM

Correction - Geelong R6 is not a qualifying race as there are only 8 starters.

michaelg 26th December 2012 05:15 PM

Another correction - Caulfield R8 is not a qualifying race because there are less than 9 runners.

michaelg 26th December 2012 09:00 PM

A bad day today. There were 36 smiles from 38 selections for a loss of $34.08. One of the accidents was $297 on S.P. and won easily, and the second accident was at single figures.

However, I noticed both of them had been credited 3.5 points or more in the From column on the D.S. Worksheet. I checked this and discovered there are quite a few winners and placegetters, especially if its last start was 14 days or less. I even considered applying this as an each-way method but the strike rate is not all that high and one could easily lose patience.

From tomorrow if a selection has 3.5 or more Form points it becomes a no-selection. In spite of today's two accidents the method is currently $118.19 in profit.


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