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topsy99 19th December 2013 08:01 AM

alternative data
 
dont mind paying after all always paid for cyberhose. will check

Chrome Prince 19th December 2013 09:51 AM

Virtual formguide is right, you pay your subscription and get no form.
Really think this is disgraceful conduct to tell people all will be good and it's just a server problem, when you know you're going under, and taking money after lodging liquidation intentions.
Most of us have been supporters for more than ten years, and to treat clients like that reflects the character of the people behind it.
A simple email apologising, because it's over and beyond his control, thanking subscribers for loyalty and issuing refunds for remainder of subscription would have been appropriate.

aussielongboat 19th December 2013 10:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca
if you mean free then Sky form is there, not as comprehensive as Cyber used to be but adequate.


Quite a few paid ones, can I mention them here?

I use Wizard. An other one is promoted by NY. of PP fame.


please mention away as i am also interested in what may be out there,

aussie

beton 19th December 2013 10:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Virtual formguide is right, you pay your subscription and get no form.
Really think this is disgraceful conduct to tell people all will be good and it's just a server problem, when you know you're going under, and taking money after lodging liquidation intentions.
Most of us have been supporters for more than ten years, and to treat clients like that reflects the character of the people behind it.
A simple email apologising, because it's over and beyond his control, thanking subscribers for loyalty and issuing refunds for remainder of subscription would have been appropriate.
When a company is insolvent they should cease trading immediately that they become aware that they cannot pay their commitments. They cease or call in administrators. If it can be shown that they have continued to trade past this date (take subscriptions etc) then the directors position changes from being personally protected by companies laws, to a position of being personally liable for additional debts. This should make them personally liable in returning these subscriptions. The lists etc and programs and like are company property and the liquidator can overturn any dispersement of company assets within six months of becoming insolvent. Phoenix Rising

topsy99 19th December 2013 02:08 PM

do you know if scraping the names off available sites e.g. tab lists is against any rules.

e.g. a program that downloads the horse names in each race only.

so that they can be put thru a black book data base for matching.

evajb001 19th December 2013 02:43 PM

You can scrape horse names off almost any form site or TAB with relative ease, but i'm not sure why you'd want to do it for blackbook purposes. Most betting agencies allow you to mark black bookers on their site and you automatically get email notifications anyhow.

topsy99 19th December 2013 04:45 PM

thanks. Automation is why. Run all the names in a race meeting at once through a data base and print out the matches.

I was talking to a former betfair person and he thought websites didnt like scraping and may actually change formats to stop it. cant see why it would be worthwhile doing that to foil punters.

blackdog1 19th December 2013 05:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by topsy99

I was talking to a former betfair person and he thought websites didnt like scraping and may actually change formats to stop it. cant see why it would be worthwhile doing that to foil punters.
The answer to your query is very simple, we all pay for data quantity.
I'm sure you are familiar with your own download limit?

If you access a website by Excel or other programmes you are using the data from that website. It all counts to their data limit.

This was the primary reason TabCorp changed their webpage.
The fact that the same result could have been achieved by simpler means never occurred to them, TAB never does anything simple if there is away to complicate it.

topsy99 19th December 2013 06:59 PM

alphabetical list
 
all i need is an alphabetical list that appears or used to appear in the sportsman.

i notice that two websites in England have this facility but cant find one in australia.

paying a fee isnt a problem.

beton 19th December 2013 09:45 PM

I get the prepost from a site with 2 in the middleTakes 2 minutes max. goes to one meeting and loads the races in order then the next meeting. Piece of cake. gathers all the data.


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