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SpeedyBen 12th January 2013 02:17 PM

Michael
By way of encouragement I started ( in the UK ) laying to a liability of $20 and have increased my liability in line with my bank and last night I laid to a liability of $100 for the first time. I'm planning to level off at $300 if I get there.
Just for the record I have a lower limit of $21 with no upper limit. The median price of my lays has been $29.

Lord Greystoke 12th January 2013 02:36 PM

if I may offer a wee jest...

In a bit of a hurry, are we speedy??

Cheers LG

SpeedyBen 12th January 2013 02:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Greystoke
if I may offer a wee jest...

In a bit of a hurry, are we speedy??

Cheers LG
One of my girlfriends called me Speedy. I thought it was a compliment at the time.

Lord Greystoke 12th January 2013 02:45 PM

And if she could've seen your form on the lay now,
She might have just lasted the distance, eh?

LOL !! LG

michaelg 12th January 2013 08:42 PM

Another losing day. There were two accidents from the 55 selections for a loss of $9.75.

The last three days have all lost.

The Ocho 12th January 2013 09:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Another losing day. There were two accidents from the 55 selections for a loss of $9.75.

The last three days have all lost.

And I only wished you luck in two of them. ;)

Not to worry though as you haven't really lost too much. I won't say anything about tomorrow other than it's another day.

michaelg 13th January 2013 07:45 AM

T.O, if you had wished me luck on the third day would you have unfairly taken the blame? - it's only coincidence.

One of yesterday's accidents - Flemington 7/8 was having it's first start after a break of 56 days yet it was not shown in either the Telegraph or Unitab as resuming from a spell. Anyone find this surprising?

The method is currently $171.76 in profit. The highest it's ever been was $199.84 which was last Tuesday, and as there's been a few days where the profit has exceeded $30 I'm somewhat hopeful for the success to continue.

jose 13th January 2013 08:29 AM

MG, a spell can be different depending on which source you use.
Tattsbet is 12 weeks, and from memory one of the form guides uses 60 days, and so on and so forth.

michaelg 13th January 2013 12:28 PM

Thanks, Jose. It would probably be more accurate if the experts declare what a spell constitutes instead of leaving it up to the opinion of whoever compiles the different form guides.

Today's selections:

Cowra
4/9, 11
5/8
8/13

Sun Coast
6/11
7/4, 6

Port Mac
1/2
2/6, 7, 8, 11, 14
3/5, 8, 9
4/7
5/2

Werribee
4/6, 7
6/8
7/14

Hobart
1/3
2/11
3/1, 6, 13
5/9, 10, 12, 15
6/7
7/2, 13, 14
8/1

Kyneton
1/1, 11
2/3, 13
3/8, 11
4/6
7/6

Strathalbyn
6/8, 9
8/5

Geraldton
3/2, 11, 13
4/1, 8
6/2, 6, 9
7/10

michaelg 13th January 2013 08:36 PM

T.O. in your last post you did mention today, but said nothing specific about it, except that it's another day. Even though you did mention today there were no accidents, in fact I don't think any of the selections even Placed which is unusually very good and it probably indicates there's nothing to your "curse".

After three successive losing days the method won today.

From the 56 selections there were 56 smiles for a profit of $40.84.

There have now been 1224 smiles from 1248 selections (a strike rate of 98%) for an all-time high of $212.60.

The Ocho 13th January 2013 10:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
T.O. in your last post you did mention today, but said nothing specific about it, except that it's another day. Even though you did mention today there were no accidents, in fact I don't think any of the selections even Placed which is unusually very good and it probably indicates there's nothing to your "curse".

After three successive losing days the method won today.

From the 56 selections there were 56 smiles for a profit of $40.84.

There have now been 1224 smiles from 1248 selections (a strike rate of 98%) for an all-time high of $212.60.

Good stuff mg. Very nice.

I won't say anything about tomorrow other than it's another day. ;)

michaelg 14th January 2013 07:46 AM

T.O, it's your decision. I am very skeptical about curses even though there are some short-timed bursts that could suggest otherwise. However, in the long run it should even itself out.

If you want to continue to wish the method good luck please do so.

michaelg 14th January 2013 11:41 AM

Today's selections:

Gunnedah
2/5
5/2

Murwillumbah
1/3
2/6
3/7, 8 ,9
4/15, 16
5/6, 7
6/5

Ararat
3/6, 9
7/14
8/6, 15

TheSchmile 14th January 2013 03:07 PM

Hi Michaelg,

Congrats on your profit thus far, may it long continue!

I was wondering if you are still using your 'lay the field' method? I recall from previous posts you were doing extremely well with this!

Anyway,
Best of luck as always and thanks for another interesting thread!!

michaelg 14th January 2013 03:54 PM

Thanks, TheSchmile.

I still lay the field using a fixed formula however only when I get the urge. It's been working profitably here, U.K. and U.S, but I must be at the computer just before the race jumps to ensure the price of the fave is over a certain price and lay the other horses for certain amounts according to their price.

In fact, I haven't layed the field since early December even though it's showing a profit in all three countries. The profits aren't all that high and at the moment it's too much work for a small profit.

michaelg 14th January 2013 05:27 PM

A bad day. From the 17 selections there was one accident for a loss of $11.57. The method's still over $200 in profit.

The Ocho 14th January 2013 06:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Thanks, TheSchmile.

I still lay the field using a fixed formula however only when I get the urge. It's been working profitably here, U.K. and U.S, but I must be at the computer just before the race jumps to ensure the price of the fave is over a certain price and lay the other horses for certain amounts according to their price.

In fact, I haven't layed the field since early December even though it's showing a profit in all three countries. The profits aren't all that high and at the moment it's too much work for a small profit.

A bot would be able to do that for you I would say.

As far as the day was concerned, no comment. ;)

TheSchmile 14th January 2013 06:21 PM

Hi The Ocho,

I thought I'd send out a good luck message today to break your hoodoo. :)

Regardless, the sun will hopefully rise again tomorrow and michaelg will still be $200 ahead on the method.

Michaelg, just out of interest, what percentage of bank are you using?

The Ocho 14th January 2013 06:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSchmile
Hi The Ocho,

I thought I'd send out a good luck message today to break your hoodoo. :)

Regardless, the sun will hopefully rise again tomorrow and michaelg will still be $200 ahead on the method.

Michaelg, just out of interest, what percentage of bank are you using?

Well good luck The Schmile in wishing michaelg good luck. :)

A loss of $11.57 in the scheme of things is nothing anyway. I certainly wouldn't write home about it.

michaelg 14th January 2013 08:02 PM

T.O. Unfortunately I know nothing about bots and having read here that there could be problems with certain bots if left unattended I would feel uneasy to do so.

Out of interest I today Layed the Field in a few races and made a small profit. I'm now also thinking of also doing it in England tonight.

T.S, I don't lay a percentage of the bank, just a fixed liability, currently of $66 but recorded here as $33. I have been testing this staking even before I started listing the selections here and it has been quite profitable. During the testing period there were 179 smiles from 182 selections for a profit of $117.33...so the current result is disappointing.

Thank you T.O. and T.S. for the ongoing good wishes.

The Ocho 14th January 2013 08:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
T.O. Unfortunately I know nothing about bots and having read here that there could be problems with certain bots if left unattended I would feel uneasy to do so.

I'm not sure where you've read that mg. I've never had a problem with an unattended bot. You can also have a stop loss or even a trailing stop loss so, in case your worried, the bot will stop. You can even just leave enough money in your account so that it won't keep betting (if you're really worried).

michaelg 15th January 2013 07:11 AM

Thanks, T.O.

I'm certain I read it here a few years ago. Maybe it referred to a particular bot and has since been rectified. And not knowing about computers I'm worried I'd make a mess of it without being able to fix any problem.

Last night I layed the field in six U.K. races for a profit.

michaelg 15th January 2013 11:15 AM

Today's selections:

Nowra
4/6
5/7, 11, 13
7/13, 14
8/6

W'bool
6/10
7/8

Townsville
2/13
3/3, 4, 10
5/11, 13
7/8

SpeedyBen 15th January 2013 06:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
I'm not sure where you've read that mg. I've never had a problem with an unattended bot. You can also have a stop loss or even a trailing stop loss so, in case your worried, the bot will stop. You can even just leave enough money in your account so that it won't keep betting (if you're really worried).
Mine runs nightly without a problem. I don't do it but the suggestion to keep bank small is a good one if you are worried. You can transfer part of your money into the other wallet so it's easy to do.

michaelg 15th January 2013 08:13 PM

Thanks S.B. but I would not feel comfortable.

Today was a terrible day. One accident from 16 selections for a loss of $21.67.

From the last seven days four of them have lost a total of $20.48 over that period.

michaelg 16th January 2013 12:12 PM

Today's selections:

Wyong
2/7
4/10
5/9, 14
6/10
7/5

Dombeen
3/7
6/3
7/10

Murray Bridge
6/2
8/8

Sandown
4/2, 7, 10
5/9

Launceston
1/9
2/6

Pinjarra
1/3, 10
3/14
4/4, 8, 11, 17
5/9
6/6, 10, 14
7/9, 12
8/2, 14, 16

There are a few at single prices in the Tele pre-post market.

michaelg 16th January 2013 08:36 PM

Not a bad day. From the 34 selections there were 34 smiles for a profit of $32.67.

UselessBettor 17th January 2013 08:15 AM

Nice work. I assume the bank is back to a new high or at least very close.

michaelg 17th January 2013 12:06 PM

Hi, U.B.

Unfortunately it is not at a new high. Last Sunday it was at its highest at $212.60 but yesterday it was at $212.03 which is only an overall loss of $0.57. Hopefully today will rectify that.

Today's selections:

Muswellbrook
2/7, 10
3/1, 2, 8, 11, 15
4/1, 7
5/9
7/9
8/1, 10

Rocky
3/1
6/3, 12, 14

Sale
3/1
7/5

Bunbury
1/8, 13, 15
2/3, 4, 5, 13
3/7
4/4
6/1, 12, 15
7/7, 8, 10, 11

michaelg 17th January 2013 08:05 PM

There was one accident from the 36 selections for a profit of $5.78.

michaelg 18th January 2013 12:32 PM

Today's selections:

Stawell
7/10
8/4, 10

Ipswich
3/14
6/8, 9, 10, 11
7/4

Cranbourne
2/5
8/4

Gosford
1/8, 9, 10
2/14
4/12
7/12

Mudgee
1/1, 9
4/6, 11
7/9
8/10

michaelg 18th January 2013 10:30 PM

Today there were 18 selections for 18 smiles for a profit of $17.61.

UselessBettor 18th January 2013 11:59 PM

The new highs just keep rolling in each day.

Nice work.

michaelg 19th January 2013 06:58 AM

Hi, U.B.

That's now three successive winning days - the record is five. The worst run of losing days is three, and there's been 27 winning days from 39.

It's still maintaining it's 98% strike rate with 1342 smiles from 1369 selections.

The method's now $235.42 in profit. Slowly but surely...

michaelg 19th January 2013 12:12 PM

Today's selections:

Albury
1/3
2/2, 7, 13
3/16
6/13

Rosehill
5/5, 6, 11
7/7 (Telegraph p.post fave)

Flemington
5/3
6/10
7/1

Eagle Farm
5/10

Morphrtville
6/10
7/5, 10, 11
8/14

Gold Coast
4/7
5/9, 10

Kembla
3/5, 6, 10, 13
7/2, 4

Coonamble
1/9, 10
2/6
3/10
4/9, 10
5/6, 9, 10
6/2

Camperdown
1/1, 8
3/7, 11
7/4, 6, 8

Toowoomba
1/3, 8
2/8
6/2, 9

Ascot
5/12
7/10, 12, 13, 14

SpeedyBen 19th January 2013 01:48 PM

Aussielongboat
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aussielongboat
i had 2 filters
ds> 100
starts > 9

i will max out the price at 100 and see what happens
I checked this out for a while Aussie and it looked very good. I started laying the horses for fun and it has won an amount equal to my liability each day when I have stopped.
Thanks for the info. I have one question. Michael operates in fields of 9 or more but you have said that your filter was >9. Is it >9 that you filtered on or => 9?
Thanks

michaelg 19th January 2013 09:19 PM

Not a bad day even though there was an accident. There were 54 smiles from 55 selections for a profit of $26.27.

michaelg 20th January 2013 11:46 AM

Today's selections:

Ballina
1/8, 9, 12, 13
5/14, 15, 16, 18
6/7, 9
7/13

Ballarat
4/1, 3

Tamworth
2/9
5/12
7/1, 3, 11

Sun Coast
2/6, 10
3/9
5/6
6/11
7/1
8/9

Mt Gambier
1/5, 7
4/3, 4, 6
6/10
7/11
8/13

Pakenham
1/4, 5
2/11
6/14
7/5, 13

Hobart
1/8
3/1, 11
5/5
7/2, 7, 8,, 9, 10

Mt Barker
3/9
4/3
5/8, 9
6/10, 11

michaelg 20th January 2013 07:25 PM

There were 49 smiles from the 50 selections for a profit of $11.92.

That's five successive winning days which has equalled the record.

UselessBettor 20th January 2013 08:49 PM

great work again.

You are a champion at these type of systems.


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