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Neil 8th April 2016 01:20 AM

Good 2YO Betting System...
 
Here are the rules.

1. This betting system operates on City meetings on Saturdays and major public holiday meetings, such as on Mondays. It does not operate on midweek racing and country racing.

2. The 2YO must be a last start winner between 1 length and 3.75 lengths in its current campaign.

3. If there is more than one qualifier in the race, back the horse with the biggest last start win.

That's it.

Good luck!

darkydog2002 9th April 2016 03:33 PM

Another Good One.
 
2 YO

Top Weight

Fav

Won Last start in current Campaign

Neil 7th May 2016 12:14 AM

Selections for 7th. May.

Flemington
1/1 Merriest

Rosehill
1/6 Hammoon Dream

Morphettville
3/4 Tris

Neil 8th May 2016 05:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
Selections for 7th. May.

Flemington
1/1 Merriest

Rosehill
1/6 Hammoon Dream

Morphettville
3/4 Tris


No good on Saturday.

Flemington
1/1 Merriest unpl. $1.80 fav.

Rosehill
1/6 Hammoon Dream unpl. $9.00

Morphettville
3/4 Tris unpl. $3.20 fav.

Neil 14th May 2016 12:23 AM

No selections for Saturday, 14th. May:

Neil 27th May 2016 05:28 PM

Selections for Saturday, 28th. May.

Sandown
2/5 Violate

Randwick
1/1 Barbass

Doomben
5/8 Cadogan

kiwiz 13th October 2016 06:49 AM

Should start seeing some action with this system now the 2yos have commenced racing

kiwiz 5th November 2016 05:58 AM

Azazel qualifies R1 Flemington today

kiwiz 6th November 2016 06:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
Azazel qualifies R1 Flemington today

No joy,,4th beaten 2.5 lengths,,slow to begin

kiwiz 12th November 2016 05:33 AM

A couple of 2yo last start winners going around R5 (Listed) Riccarton Park today
Gilhoolie & Prom Queen
Gilhoolie gets the nod over Prom Queen (2.5 lengths winner vs 2.0)

kiwiz 13th November 2016 05:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
A couple of 2yo last start winners going around R5 (Listed) Riccarton Park today
Gilhoolie & Prom Queen
Gilhoolie gets the nod over Prom Queen (2.5 lengths winner vs 2.0)

Gilhoolie 4th,,winner Prom Queen

kiwiz 25th November 2016 07:28 AM

Keeper Keen qualifies R5 Ascot tomorrow

kiwiz 1st December 2016 05:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
Keeper Keen qualifies R5 Ascot tomorrow

Winner

kiwiz 5th December 2016 04:15 AM

2yo Gift Of Power made it three in a row,,Trentham Saturday

grizzle 6th December 2016 12:04 AM

tend to follow the market for 2yo races, especially those races early in the season
obviously a good guide for those 2yos having their first start
also find that certain trainers have a better record than others with 2yos

Sands 9th December 2016 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
2yo Gift Of Power made it three in a row,,Trentham Saturday

Big wraps on that filly, from what I've read
Now at the top of the Order of Entry for the 2017 Karaka Million

kiwiz 9th December 2016 09:44 PM

The Karaka Million is scheduled for 29 Jan,,so still time to see more contenders Sands
But she has done everything right so far
Looking forward to the race & as per the race name,,a stake of NZ$1,000,000

Sands 10th December 2016 07:48 AM

Cheers kiwiz, I'll keep a watch

grizzle 10th December 2016 04:22 PM

princess rihanna looked good, debut win a couple of weeks ago

kiwiz 13th December 2016 09:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle
princess rihanna looked good, debut win a couple of weeks ago

Agree grizzle,,did look good,,jockey only had to shake her up a bit,,easy win
Currently sitting 8th on the Karaka order of entry

kiwiz 16th December 2016 05:44 PM

Gold Fever R2 Awapuni tomorrow

kumite 19th December 2016 08:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
Here are the rules.

2. The 2YO must be a last start winner between 1 length and 3.75 lengths in its current campaign.


hello Neil
curious why you've set the max winning margin at 3.75 lengths

Ours To Keep who won the listed 2yo event at Doomben on Saturday won his previous start at Doomben by 4.30 lengths (thus not qualifying by your current rules)

a winning margin > 3.75 lengths especially on a city track, not a good thing?

grizzle 19th December 2016 04:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kumite
hello Neil
curious why you've set the max winning margin at 3.75 lengths

Ours To Keep who won the listed 2yo event at Doomben on Saturday won his previous start at Doomben by 4.30 lengths (thus not qualifying by your current rules)

a winning margin > 3.75 lengths especially on a city track, not a good thing?

similar scenario she will reign
won the inglis nursery at randwick saturday
previous start 8.3len winner kembla grange

Neil 20th December 2016 07:08 PM

When discussing this many years ago with a successful punting friend he suggested with automatic rules like in betting systems 4l. plus often indicates a very weak beaten field.

Different when using judgement etc.

UselessBettor 20th December 2016 08:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
When discussing this many years ago with a successful punting friend he suggested with automatic rules like in betting systems 4l. plus often indicates a very weak beaten field.

Different when using judgement etc.



If you find no other horses from that race where this horse won have gone on to be competitive or win then yes it is a weak field and you discount the winning lengths, but if 2 or 3 of those horses have gone on to place or win other races then its a very good 4L win.

As always its a "depends" which make the difference of a profit or a loss and it needs to be coded into your system logic or handicapping process.

grizzle 21st December 2016 01:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
If you find no other horses from that race where this horse won have gone on to be competitive or win then yes it is a weak field and you discount the winning lengths, but if 2 or 3 of those horses have gone on to place or win other races then its a very good 4L win.

As always its a "depends" which make the difference of a profit or a loss and it needs to be coded into your system logic or handicapping process.

yep, max 3.75len as a guide, use your own judgement anything over

kiwiz 2nd January 2017 04:55 AM

Karaka Million
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
2yo Gift Of Power made it three in a row,,Trentham Saturday


Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle
princess rihanna looked good, debut win a couple of weeks ago

New kid on the block,,Hasahalo
Won yesterdays Eclipse Stakes at Ellerslie
Gift Of Power a close 2nd
Princess Rihanna 4th,,no luck,,squeezed out at the start & then tightened again in the closing stages of the race

kiwiz 8th January 2017 05:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
New kid on the block,,Hasahalo
Won yesterdays Eclipse Stakes at Ellerslie
Gift Of Power a close 2nd
Princess Rihanna 4th,,no luck,,squeezed out at the start & then tightened again in the closing stages of the race

2017 Karaka Million Order of Entry

Current top 5

1 Gift of Power
2 Hasahalo
3 Star Treasure
4 Talaria
5 Princess Rihanna

kiwiz 18th January 2017 04:18 AM

Felton Road was a qualifier at Ellerslie on Saturday
Won his race & moves up to 6th spot,,Karaka Million order of entry

kiwiz 14th March 2017 12:21 PM

Seven last start winners in the Golden Slipper final field
They are (last start winning margin)

Houtzen 4L
Trapeze Artist 3L
Frolic 2.3L
Tulip 1.8L
Catchy 0.4L
Single Bullet 0.2L
Diamond Tathagata 0.2L

kiwiz 15th March 2017 07:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
Seven last start winners in the Golden Slipper final field
They are (last start winning margin)

Houtzen 4L
Trapeze Artist 3L
Frolic 2.3L
Tulip 1.8L
Catchy 0.4L
Single Bullet 0.2L
Diamond Tathagata 0.2L

And their barrier draw for world's richest two-year-old race
Houtzen 16
Trapeze Artist 5
Frolic 17
Tulip 10
Catchy 8
Single Bullet 3
Diamond Tathagata 7

kiwiz 19th March 2017 07:15 AM

Flemington R4 Shoals

kiwiz 17th April 2017 06:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
And their barrier draw for world's richest two-year-old race
Houtzen 16
Trapeze Artist 5
Frolic 17
Tulip 10
Catchy 8
Single Bullet 3
Diamond Tathagata 7

Best result,,Frolic 2nd,,Tulip 3rd

kiwiz 10th July 2017 04:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
The Karaka Million is scheduled for 29 Jan,,so still time to see more contenders Sands
But she has done everything right so far
Looking forward to the race & as per the race name,,a stake of NZ$1,000,000

Good news locally
Next years Karaka Million meeting will be run on Saturday 27 Jan rather than its traditional Sunday slot
It will continue as a 6 race twilight meeting but the support card will now comprise 4 new Group races
And now 2 featured $1 million races
The 2yo Karaka Million (1200m) & the 3yo Karaka Million (1600m)

grizzle 11th September 2017 01:49 AM

new 2yo season not far off
Santos recently won a Rosehill 2yo trial in good fashion
on my list

grizzle 28th September 2017 08:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle
new 2yo season not far off
Santos recently won a Rosehill 2yo trial in good fashion
on my list

r1 breeder's plate randwick sat

grizzle 29th September 2017 07:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzle
new 2yo season not far off
Santos recently won a Rosehill 2yo trial in good fashion
on my list

20/1 ew

jake 29th September 2017 08:50 AM

..pin job those early 2yo races..good luck with it

grizzle 30th September 2017 01:00 AM

thanks jake
got 25/1
there's been money for the stablemate in the fillies event - Bold Arial

goodoil 30th September 2017 11:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jake
..pin job those early 2yo races..good luck with it

agree jake
no less than 7 trial winners in that race


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