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michaelg 12th December 2012 10:15 PM

There were 31 smiles from the 31 selections for a profit of $25.31.

Lord Greystoke 12th December 2012 10:22 PM

How has that bank of yours been building since the large withdrawal Michaelg?

Cheers LG

michaelg 13th December 2012 07:03 AM

Hi, L.G.

Unfortunately, it's not.

My Lay Outsiders and Lay the Field methods are doing well and my bank increases, but every now and then due to lack of self discipline I lay horses that "can't win" and eventually one of them does, and I have to start all over again.

Lord Greystoke 13th December 2012 07:09 AM

Are you recording bets as you go?

LG

aussielongboat 13th December 2012 08:00 AM

this lay approach will probably be OK;
these are the results for last years using 2 factors
1. DS>=100-1
2.2 starts or more

across every horse race covered by tatts bet since dec 2010
Values
starters # wins wsr wprofit wpot # plc psr plprofit plcPOT
172809 8340 5% -48683 -28% 28361 16% -44687 -26%

you would have to allow a bit more for the improved SP on BF - but there is plenty to play with at -28%

cheers
aussie

michaelg 13th December 2012 08:21 AM

L.G. - I only record the bets layed on my systems, not the reckless ones even though most if not all, of my $10,000 profit came from them.

My Lay Outsiders is showing about a 25% POT (depends how one calculates POT on lay betting) and slightly over 100% POT on Lay the Field.

Aussielongboat, I'm somewhat uneasy, but not uninterested when we can identify a profit of approx 30% on Lay betting using TAB divvies. And at the moment I've got a full plate, that's (and lack of interest) probably the main reason I'm no longer looking at laying no.1 based on Unitab's ratings. There were six selections of them yesterday and all would have been smiles.

aussielongboat 13th December 2012 09:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
L.G. - I only record the bets layed on my systems, not the reckless ones even though most if not all, of my $10,000 profit came from them.

My Lay Outsiders is showing about a 25% POT (depends how one calculates POT on lay betting) and slightly over 100% POT on Lay the Field.

Aussielongboat, I'm somewhat uneasy, but not uninterested when we can identify a profit of approx 30% on Lay betting using TAB divvies. And at the moment I've got a full plate, that's (and lack of interest) probably the main reason I'm no longer looking at laying no.1 based on Unitab's ratings. There were six selections of them yesterday and all would have been smiles.


just as a clarification the results i published weren't unitab ratings =- they were filtered don scott prices taken from racing and sports

michaelg 13th December 2012 12:18 PM

Thanks, Aussielongboat.

Today's selections are:

Goulburn
2/1
6/7, 11
7/5, 14
8/5, 7

Kyneton
3/12
4/6, 8
5/9, 10
8/1

Rocky
1/5, 8
7/3, 5, 13

Geraldton
2/2
3/3, 12
5/2, 10
6/6
7/7, 13, 14
8/1, 11

There are no scratchings shown on Unitab or NSWTAB for Geraldton so I have to assume there are none today.

Try Try Again 13th December 2012 12:29 PM

Hi Michaelg,

Scratchings for Geraldton are

Race 7 - 4,14,15,16
Race 8 - 8

michaelg 13th December 2012 12:38 PM

Thanks, Try.

Even Betfair loaded the scratchings before Unitab and NSWTAB listed them - shame,shame shame unless there was some internal problem out of both TABs control.


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