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lomaca 10th April 2011 04:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
I can't see that backing Barrier 1 at ROSEHILL would be profitable, yet backing barrier 2 would not.
I think you might change your mind moeee, if you look at this:
http://www.racenet.com.au/barriers.asp?Track=RHIL

BP1 wins more often than BP2

Cheers

mattio 10th April 2011 04:46 PM

Those stats also indicate you could back barrier 6 and be just as successful. Seems to me this system is based purely on chance.

moeee 10th April 2011 04:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca
I think you might change your mind moeee, if you look at this:
http://www.racenet.com.au/barriers.asp?Track=RHIL

BP1 wins more often than BP2



IRRELEVANT!

Box 1 on the Greyhounds wins more than any other Box at nearly every venue, at nearly every distance.
You will slowly bleed to death if you back it level stakes every Race.

One thing noticeable about your Graphs - The Massive strike rate for barrier 13 over many distances - Lucky for some.

lomaca 10th April 2011 05:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
IRRELEVANT!

Box 1 on the Greyhounds wins more than any other Box at nearly every venue, at nearly every distance.
You will slowly bleed to death if you back it level stakes every Race.

One thing noticeable about your Graphs - The Massive strike rate for barrier 13 over many distances - Lucky for some.
I didn't make up those stats moeee! they are not mine!!
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Agree on box one.

Keep in mind the number of times barrier 13 is used as opposed to barrier 1.

I personally rate barriers 3 to 5 as far better than Bp1 or Bp2 as a general rule, but you have to make a distinction by racetrack and race distance as well.

Again, in general I don't take much notice of barriers over 1600 M.

I'm very new to Greyhounds moeee, only recently started to take interest and I find it much easier to rate than horses.
Followed some of your posts and if and when I can rate them as well as you do, I'll be happy.

Cheers

Raven 10th April 2011 05:38 PM

Results 1 Jan 2000 to 30 Sep 2009

Starters 2147
Wins 273
Return Unitab $2183.60

I think the results since havent backed up

beton 10th April 2011 06:18 PM

Straight out barrier win chart is not comparing apples with apples. You need to make a chart for track, distance and field size. Just think how many races have less than 13 runners, Barrier 13 may produce a profit at certain distances in fields of 13 Plus. The barrier 11 at ascot just by having a quick looks like a possible winner also.

Dennis G 10th April 2011 10:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis G
For anyone who's interested, the barrier stats for all Rosehill races from 1st August 1996 to 1998 (I haven't kept the stats going) are -



BP12345678910111213141516
Starters2743274327422741273427012594239020971723132895860433211156
Wins34528727130129026623519916213610864462074
Percent12.58%10.46%9.88%10.98%10.61%9.85%9.06%8.33%7.73%7.89%8.13%6.68%7.62%6.02%6.31%7.14%

Sorry, just reread that, dates should have been '1st August 1996 to 2008'

darkydog2002 11th April 2011 02:54 PM

It might work if the horse was over $20 and had the letter "R" in its name.

The Ocho 11th April 2011 03:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkydog2002
It might work if the horse was over $20 and had the letter "R" in its name.

Why don't they keep stats like that...lol :)

darkydog2002 11th April 2011 04:41 PM

Yeah.Ho Ho.
Mind you the odd 100/1 winner covers a lot of duds though.


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