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jacfin 1st March 2004 02:18 PM

Because today is a public holiday in WA I decided to do a bit of research on the Tabform ratings which are also the Unitab ratings. Are they in fact AAP ratings?
The results of the last 5 months for this system are 99 selections - 14 winners - avge divy $13 - LS profit 81 units.
The best winner was Roman Arch in Melb in the spring - $23.
You would need a big heart to follow a system with such a low strike rate but it achieved a good result if you had done so.
Will it continue to succeed? Probably not, but I've backed Sportsman ($17 winner)and Wishart ($14)from a handful of bets in the last couple of weeks so I'll continue on until the profits run out or ...... .
The rules -
Metro Sat only excluding Adelaide and Perth.
Consider any 100 pointer left after scratchings.
Back it if you can obtain $8.50 or more.
Ignore races where 3 100 pointers are >= $8.5.
I know that Sportz and others have looked at 100 pointers so if any of you have some extra rules which would improve the bottom line feel free to jump in.


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sportznut 1st March 2004 02:31 PM

Any idea how that system would have gone at country and provincial meetings? Desert Clearance a 100 rater just got up at Sale paying $8.60 here in Qld!!!

Anyway, I love the Unitab ratings and I've got one for you to look at:

1. At least 8 starters after scratchings.
2. Horse must be the only 100 rater left after scratchings.
3. Must be first up from a spell.
4. Must have won at this distance (c or d).

In the last 3 months, that simple system made around 85% profit and it also picked Sportsman.

Your system looks pretty good as it is, but if you want to improve things, I suggest you could look at winners at this distance (c or d) or last start beaten favourites.


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jacfin 1st March 2004 03:33 PM

Sportz
I knew that you'd have some good ideas to contribute. The distance winner seems like a good angle to look at. I'd like to get the hit rate up to 20% if possible even if it sacrificed some of the profit. I'll look into it when I continue my research.
I must confess that until this morning when I was doing the research I didn't know that unitab had ratings on C or P meetings. We get them for Sat meetings only in the TAB form guide. Something you wrote elsewhere made me think that they were perhaps the same as the unitab ratings and a spot check seems to confirm that.
Do you have the breakdown of win% etc for the first up system? It looks like a good one and shows your genius for finding 7 day a week systems. I have the utmost admiration for someone who can do this.

sportznut 1st March 2004 04:01 PM

Around 30%.

I'm sorry, I haven't actually updated my figures, but up until last week, they were like this: 16 wins from 52 bets and a profit of 86%

I personally use a pre-post price range of $3.00-$21.00 and using that, the figures are like this: 14 wins from 46 bets and a profit of 101%

Hope that helps.

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sportznut 2nd March 2004 09:29 AM

Okay, not quite so good in the past week or two. Here are the updated figures:
Selections 59
Wins 18, Win return $102.30, Win profit 73%
Places 34, Place return $66.00, Place profit 12%

With $3-$21 pre-post price rule:
Selections 52
Wins 15, Win return $96.40, Win profit 85%
Places 31, Place return $63.90, Place profit 23%

As for your idea, I think it's an excellent one. As I was going through a few results yesterday, I noticed many good priced winners from the 100 raters on all days of the week. I'm going to have to look into that. :smile:

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kenchar 2nd March 2004 09:49 AM

Sportz,
Just curious do you check the selections 1st up strike rate or just bet them if the above rules apply.

Cheers

sportznut 2nd March 2004 09:55 AM

Good point. No, these results are without checking for first-up strike rates. I'll have to look into that too. :smile:

Shaun 2nd March 2004 10:03 AM

Quote:
On 2004-03-02 09:29, sportznut wrote:
Okay, not quite so good in the past week or two. Here are the updated figures:
Selections 59
Wins 18, Win return $102.30, Win profit 73%
Places 34, Place return $66.00, Place profit 12%

With $3-$21 pre-post price rule:
Selections 52
Wins 15, Win return $96.40, Win profit 85%
Places 31, Place return $63.90, Place profit 23%

Gees sportz....any pro would give his first born to have a strike rate like that.....any longterm results

[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-03-02 09:43 ]

sportznut 2nd March 2004 10:12 AM

Sorry, not at the moment. However, I am working on these 100 raters systems at the moment and by the time I'm finished, I'll have some figures for you. :smile:

Shaun 2nd March 2004 10:40 AM

Sportz....in the above results what was the test period of those selections
how many selection a day would you say


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