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darkydog2002 22nd April 2013 02:50 PM

2 2 Trial Results.
 
100 bets /21 winners /Av price 3.41
Longest Run of outs 11
$5000 Bank - Loss of $648 @$100 per bet.

Still in the Zone of probabilities.

Thanks Party for reminding me of this one.

Cheers

Vortech 22nd April 2013 05:21 PM

Rules?

darkydog2002 22nd April 2013 06:19 PM

See "System 6 for 2013"

darkydog2002 22nd April 2013 06:29 PM

2 2 last 2 starts in current campaign.

I tested it over ALL Track Conditions.

The 2nd set of 100 I will do the same.

Cheers.

partypooper 22nd April 2013 07:20 PM

try it, Pre-post fav only, back for the place only (best tote) , last start city run only, less than 2000m only?

darkydog2002 22nd April 2013 09:29 PM

I,ve used it 7 days a week win only.
My concern with your rules is that it wouldn,t have enough bets to be worth following (LS City Run) or be profitable Place since Place bets are on Av 1/5 of the Win price (Av win price 3.4/1)
But someone may do that.

Best Win Run 3 (twice)

Cheers.

darkydog2002 27th April 2013 05:52 PM

Ripsnorter day Party .Got all he losses back and more.
398.3% ROI/ Nett $2390

darkydog2002 12th May 2013 05:55 PM

Bet 203 and a quick way to the poor house for this system.

$5000 bank now stands at $2899.

I will bother no further with this one.

Try Try Again 13th May 2013 09:25 AM

Thanks for the update darkydog2002.

It is frustrating when "systems" turn their toes up after showing so much promise!

Back to the drawing board.

PaulD01 13th May 2013 10:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Try Try Again
Thanks for the update darkydog2002.

It is frustrating when "systems" turn their toes up after showing so much promise!

Back to the drawing board.

Hi All

Yes I agree it can be frustrating to find systems that offer promise only to turn negative as the sample size increases.

What is being referenced here in this thread is nothing more than variance. Unfortunately regardless of how successful you are as a punter, you cannot escape it. Betting strategies that are focused on higher strike rates and a solid sample of bets are more likely to be able to be adopted for profit versus a method with lower strike rates even if the POT is higher for the latter.

In terms of the 100 bet example cited in this thread and using a strike rate of 21% and adapting the realities of mathematics, dictate the following conclusions:

1. Your average bet size should not exceed 0.7% of your bank;
2. Using 1 line of deviation (68% of the time), you will likely have a drawdown of between 31-60 winners in terms of average bets;
3. Using 2 lines of deviation (95% of the time), you will likely have a drawdown of between 16-73 winners in terms of average bets;
4. There is still a 5% chance that your results will fall outside both points 2 and 3;
5. Depending on how long it takes to wager say 100 bets, your results in terms of POT% are likely (95% chance) to be between -32.7% and +52.7% POT after the 100 bets have been made and resulted.
6. The longest losing sequence will fall between 4 and 25 (95% of the time).

Our Betting Analyser is the only module that we are aware of that plots the exact position in terms actual betting realities when testing systems on a historical basis. In allows a multitude of testing across level and proportional staking using several different pricing options to determine bet size. It will show you show you the results including draw-downs, bank highs, bank risk, turnover and other necessary information so that you can see exactly how your systems would perform in real life.

If you would like any assistance with this or other modelling then we would be happy to assist.


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