dutching for a place
Place dutching, is it possible? Is there a calculator available? Has anyone any experience with dutching for a place?
I assume the maths would be quite involved, with different field sizes and some countries offering 4 place getters. Betfair also has the option of 4 place results on certain races. But if we opt for the standard (in Aust) 3 place dividends.......anyone? Mike. 
I have never thought about it. Its an interesting idea.
Can you expand on what you are thinking? Dutching for 1 place is easy as the math is the same as the dutching for a win. Dutching for X placings is a little more complex but I think I could work it out. Give me an example of what your thinking and I'll see what I can come up with. 
Been doing it for years...as a layer.
Not as complicated as people make out. No calculator needed. 
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Hi UB I was thinking of taking the same 3 or 4 selections I'd dutch for the win, but instead dutching for 2 of them to place. Placing just one of them would give lower returns but a higher strike rate. So, 2 to 3 selections for one of them to run a place, (as you say it's same as dutching for a win) And 3 to 5 selections to run two places. Cheers, Mike. 
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Hi Mark, how many selections would you lay per race, or is it dependent on the odds? Mike 
[QUOTE=Mike367]Hi UB
So, 2 to 3 selections for one of them to run a place, (as you say it's same as dutching for a win) Actually it seems its not the same as dutching the win as the are 3 chances to place as opposed to 1 to win. That would alter the calculations and the top 3 chances are often less than $2 to place. This gives a negative result when using the dutch to win calculator. 
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Thorns knows me (and himself) too well.

I'm not a layer but I agree, dutchingr for place is not a viable idea due to odds. I often back two dogs for a place but hey have to be $3 and over.

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Hi Mark, you lay the field? Dogs? Thorns you too? When laying the field do you lay to a liability? Or are there selected races where you lay level stakes? Or maybe dutch lay the field, if thats possible? A couple of pointers would be much appreciated. Cheers, Mike. 
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