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Mike367 26th October 2013 11:00 PM

place %
 
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for the place % of the paper favourite, for city and country meetings.

I've done a search but no luck, can someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks Mike

michaelg 27th October 2013 11:42 AM

Mike367.

Each horse is shown with it's Place percentage on the Punters Paradise website. This info is listed in their Form Guide section.

Good luck, Michael.

Mike367 27th October 2013 04:26 PM

Thanks Michaelg,

though that's not quite what I meant, sorry I should have made myself clearer.

If the fave wins 30% of the time, how often does it place?
60,70,80%????

michaelg 27th October 2013 05:56 PM

Mike367.

I don't have an accurate answer and don't know where I can find it, but I think I remember to have read it somewhere that the raw figure (no filters) is around 60%.

Mike367 27th October 2013 07:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Mike367.

I don't have an accurate answer and don't know where I can find it, but I think I remember to have read it somewhere that the raw figure (no filters) is around 60%.
Thanks, I'll keep looking.

beton 27th October 2013 08:37 PM

Quoted from elsewhere
We collected 9 years of stats on this.
The favourites running a place is approx 70 percent
85 percent place strike rate at $2 and under.

Interestingly, the stat is the same for greyhounds and trots.

Lord Greystoke 27th October 2013 09:26 PM

Is there a similar figure for the win, Beton?

LG

SpeedyBen 27th October 2013 10:27 PM

I have an old book of systems from 1970 and it also gives the figure of 70% of outright favs run a place.

Rinconpaul 28th October 2013 07:37 AM

Mike367's original question was 'Paper favourite' Not sure if Beton or Speedy's posts addressed that specifically? There's favourites and there's favourites??
Had a look at Sunshine Coast races from yesterday and compared 1.Outright oncourse bookies Open favourite, 2. Final Tote Favourite & 3. Newspaper pre Post favourite.

...........Oncourse Open Fav.....Tote Fav...........Pre Post Fav
1/.................3rd.....................Unpl..... ............Won
2/.................Won...................2nd........ ...........Won
3/.................Unpl...................Unpl...... ............Unpl
4/.................3rd....................3rd....... .............3rd
5/.................Unpl...................Unpl...... ............scr
6/.................N/A....................Won..................2nd
7/.................2nd....................2nd....... ............2nd
8/.................Unpl...................Unpl..................scr
....................57%...................50%..... ............83%

Mike367 28th October 2013 06:57 PM

Thank-you, Beton, SpeedyBen and Rinconpaul.

All food for thought especially Rinconpauls post. It would be very interesting to see the results for a longer period.
If anyone has the data........?

Cheers,

Mike.


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