XPT, I know that ratings are your thing and you produce some very good ones ( often aginst the public thoughts and successful) I dont think that P 57 was premeditated in his attack, rather than annoyed at people putting down his ideas that seem to work for him. And yes, you did do well to keep out as long as you did. Dont think that I am having a go at ratings as such as I have used them myself, ( sometimes with success sometimes without) I am just putting forward the point that people have different methods that work for them and should be allowed to put them forward without having the stats men shoot them down. Stats can certianly be useful however I'll go with gut instinct evey time. I just believe in the old saying, if you dont have something nice to say dont say it at all.