Shonegg, sorry got a bit mixed up there, all was as I said except realised later that it was jake who mentioned Clueless Angel,..... so credit where it's due..... anyway as it happened I dropped the lot at Bubury today, backed the first 2 winners so thought I was in for a good day ..... then ZILCHE! ..... 4 seconds. I ended up $22 in front over 2 days, when I figure I should have been $2000 in front, ah well there you go,........ NEXT WEEK EH?