Too true Party, but life is too short for me to waste it arguing with others about it, so I just let comments extolling the virtues of plans, that turn a loss into profit, slide past me.
Even JC needed at least water to turn it into wine!

We would be going over ploughed ground anyway, but punters being punters, they cling to every little ray of hope.

Even with small profits at level stakes but with long outs some staking plans may become impractical.

The example I gave above with the neurals, if tweaked a little it can produce a level POT of about 10%, but the max outs so far was 46.

Imagine, with the simple staking I used, the maximum bet size at the 46th out is $1081, and that starting at $1!!

So if anyone thinks "I can do better than that by increasing the bet" what do you think would happen if that bet had to be placed on a country meeting with a win pool of less than $5000?

Some people live in a dream world Party, I reckon we are better off doing what we know, and let them dream eh?

Good luck