kenchar, with the greatest of respect, and I've read your posts, and I would drown in your bow wave sir ...........

I'm thinking that a 4/1 "pop" (or there abouts) has to win fairly regularly. What I'm trying to do here is eliminate the ratings, eliminate horses over the odds or under the odds (who knows!) and try to do the reverse of what most punters do. And that is lose and chase their losses.

I'm trying to "cash in" on a good day, not an exceptional day, just a good day.

I just wish there were a few others that would put their two bobs worth in.

FWIW I am in no doubt that systems do fall out of favour and pay well for a short time.