Cosmos, I hope that my observations can help. You may also notice that the tote price of winners such as these is usually far greater than the odds that it starts at on track. Compare that with the tote prices of some of the more successful systems. A couple of the systems that I follow, which I've outlined here, produce winners that seem to pay unders. It makes me think that i'm not the only one doing the Topweight, number of days between runs, strike rate etc. There doesn't appear to be any value in it. You get value when a horse has a ********** run, but after you analyse the form, you realise that it is still getting fitter (son nothing has changed there!) and is a prospect for major improvement. The bookies must love form .........

Thanks for your post Cosmos.