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Old 5th November 2012, 05:24 PM
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I've said many times that finding a "profitable system" is the easy part ..... and it is too. These systems I post are to give an "indication" to the many on here who don't have a database (those who prefer milk and bread eh ?? lol .... ) of what filters MAY work in combination. My opinion is that you need to show a (hypothetical) 50% POT to ride the ups and downs of horse racing.

This system passes "muster" because it's profitable in both NSW and Vic.

Seln's 2,398
Winners 376
POT 15.7%

TAB 1 to 6 (DD should love this one)
Race distance > 1200m
Weight >+1 kg (so it's going down in class and up in weight which is better than up in class and down in weight ..... so the experts say. I don't believe this to be true)
Days break 4 to 6
SP $4 to $15 (it's in the market)

..... note so far, we haven't delved into the individual horses form (LSW, "c" etc), which I believe gives a system more chance of repeating !!

5 filters .....

Add a couple of filters and this can be well over 50% POT ..... hypothetical of course !!
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Old 5th November 2012, 05:55 PM
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Are you talking about 50 % on TO for 1 bet or 1 race as it has never been possible by anyone EVER in the long history of Horse betting to achieve 50% on TO over the long term.

7 - 15 % is possible if your one of the Top Flight bettors in Australia .

I leave the 50 % on TO figures to the imagination of the sharks,conmen and system sellers who abound in the industry.
Their good for a giggle though.

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Old 5th November 2012, 06:16 PM
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Are you talking about 50 % on TO for 1 bet or 1 race as it has never been possible by anyone EVER in the long history of Horse betting to achieve 50% on TO over the long term.

7 - 15 % is possible if your one of the Top Flight bettors in Australia .

I leave the 50 % on TO figures to the imagination of the sharks,conmen and system sellers who abound in the industry.
Their good for a giggle though.

Cheers.

Darkydog2002, you cannot prove your statement, and to say "it has never been possible by anyone EVER in the long history .... blah, blah" is nothing more than your opinion. I have posted what is factual as far as my database goes, and further "logical" filtering gives me, as I've said in my original post, a HYPOTHETICAL POT well in excess of 50%. I can prove this ..... You cannot prove your assertion. Nice to see moeee has sent on the 19th man in his abscence tho', good for a larff.
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Old 5th November 2012, 06:21 PM
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Are you talking about 50 % on TO for 1 bet or 1 race as it has never been possible by anyone EVER in the long history of Horse betting to achieve 50% on TO over the long term.



What would you say is the suggested min sample size over which to prove that the 50% POT is sustainable?

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Old 5th November 2012, 06:23 PM
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Geez Darkydog2002, you used to go into absolute raptures everytime bhagwan posted on of his systems ..... and he had many that showed POT's of well over 100%. You even nominated him for system of the year !!

At least be consistent.

For what it's worth, the systems that I could test of bhagwan's, I couldn't get close to a POT, let alone the one's over 100%. You're a bit like moeee, you criticise, yet you haven't got the resources to back your criticisms up (called facts !) ..... so they're just opinions Darkydog2002.
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Old 5th November 2012, 06:23 PM
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I think your meaning Return On Investment rather than Profit On Turnover.

2 Completely different things.

ROI is for a individual horse or race.

POT is long term over a year or many years.

Many people get mixed up with these 2 definitions.

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Old 5th November 2012, 06:25 PM
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What would you say is the suggested min sample size over which to prove that the 50% POT is sustainable?

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No comment for you LG ..... I'm on ignore remember ?
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Old 5th November 2012, 06:25 PM
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I think your meaning Return On Investment rather than Profit On Turnover.

2 Completely different things.

ROI is for a individual horse or race.

POT is long term over a year or many years.

Many people get mixed up with these 2 definitions.

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Please explain in more detail Darkydog2002.
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Old 5th November 2012, 06:53 PM
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Example:
You start the year with a $100 bank. At the end of the year your bank is $200, so you've made $100 profit.

Your ROI is 100%.

To make the $100 profit, you turned your bank over 10 times ($1000).

Your POT is 10%.
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Old 5th November 2012, 07:07 PM
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