These are listed in descending order of quality and class.
They are my ratings based on class of race and strength of field compared to other races in the SAME year.

RACE NAME	RACE DISTANCE	RACE CLASS

Emirates Melbourne Cup	3200	Group I

Carlton Draught Cox Plate	2040	Group I

Aami Golden Slipper	1200	Group I

Carlton Draught Caulfield Cup	2400	Group I

The Bmw	2400	Group I

David Jones Australian Derby	2400	Group I

Doncaster Handicap	1600	Group I

Aami Victoria Derby	2500	Group I

Australian Cup	2000	Group I

Aami Stradbroke	1400	Group I

Carlton Draught Caulfield Guineas	1600	Group I

Seppelt Wines Newmarket Handicap	1200	Group I

Aami Blue Diamond Stakes	1200	Group I

Tooheys New Golden Rose	1400	Listed Race

Bigpond Queen Elizabeth Stakes	2000	Group I

2005 Inglis Two Years Old Champions	1200	Open

Schweppes Sydney Cup	3200	Group I

Cadbury Guineas	1600	Group I

Blackmores Tj Smith Stakes	1200	Group I

Emirates Stakes	1600	Group I

Carlton Draught-railway Stakes	1600	Group I

Crown Oaks	2500	Group I

Carlton Draught Doomben 10,000	1350	Group I

Emirates Ajc Australian Oaks	2400	Group I

Bigpond Racing Epsom Handicap	1600	Group I

Coolmore Classic	1500	Group I

The Metropolitan	2400	Group I

Turnbull Stakes	2000	Group II

Teac Lightning Stakes	1000	Group I

Ascot Vale Stakes	1200	Group II

Motorola Mackinnon Stakes	2000	Group I

Nivea Visage Craiglee Stakes	1600	Group II

Seppelt Salinger Stakes	1200	Group I

Myer Classic	1600	Group I

Vinery Stud Thousand Guineas	1600	Group I

Xxxx Gold Doomben Cup Weight For Ag	2200	Group I

Dubai Rosehill Guineas	2000	Group I

The Racetree T.J. Smith Qtis 2-y-o	1600	Group I

Inglis Sires Produce	1400	Group I

Conrad Treasury Brisbane Cup	3200	Group I

Bmw Queensland Derby	2400	Group I

Salinger Champagne Stakes	1600	Group I

Ranvet Stakes	2000	Group I

Futurity Stakes	1400	Group I

Yalumba Stakes	2000	Group I

Daily Telegraph All Aged Stakes	1400	Group I

Cleanevent Manikato Stakes	1200	Group I

Arrowfield Stud Stakes	2000	Group I

Cathay Pacific George Ryder Stakes	1500	Group I

McMillanprint Queen Of The Turf Sta	1500	Group I

Kia Ora Stud Canterbury Guineas	1900	Group I

David Jones Galaxy	1100	Group I

Fruit 'n' Veg Stakes	1800	Group I

Shannons Sandown Classic	2400	Group II

Timbercorp Australia Stakes	1200	Group I

Sport 927 Sandown Guineas	1600	Group II

Skycity Adelaide Cup	3200	Group I

Queensland Racing Winter Stakes Fil	1500	Group III

George Main Stakes	1600	Group I

Dubai Duty Free Underwood Stakes	1800	Group I

Sydney City Lexus Flight Stakes	1600	Group I

Toorak Handicap	1600	Group I

Oakleigh Plate	1100	Group I

Dubai Racing Club Cup	1400	Group I

The Age Classic	1200	Group II

C.F. Orr Stakes	1400	Group I

Blamey Stakes	1600	Group II

Bmw-perth Cup	3200	Group II

Thrifty Spring Champion Stakes	2000	Group I

Richmond Grove Btc Cup Weight For A	1200	Group II

Malaysia Airlines Magic Millions Ad	1200	Open

Joe Richards Menswear Queensland Oa	2400	Group I

Grease-the Arena Spectacular Todman	1200	Group II

Robert Sangster Stakes	1200	Group I

Carlton Draught St George Stakes	1800	Group II

Mount Franklin Lightly Sparklking-w	2400	Group I

Cathay Pacific Airways Cup	2500	Group II

Urban Pacific Goodwood Handicap	1200	Group I

Darley Sires' Produce Stakes	1400	Group II

Sydney Morning Herald Chairman's Ha	2600	Group II

Kewney Stakes	1600	Group II

Bigpond Reisling Stakes	1200	Group II

Healthway-karrakatta Plate	1200	Group II

Blazer Edward Manifold Stakes	1610	Group II

Malaysia Airlines Sa Derby	2500	Group I

Dato` Tan Chin Nam Stakes	1600	Group II

Inglis 2yo Classic	1200	Open

Chipping Norton Stakes	1600	Group I

Woodstock Mile	1600	Group II

Gilgai  Stakes	1200	Group III

L'oreal Paris Plate	1200	Group III

Dodo Sprint	1100	Group II

Memsie Stakes	1400	Group II

Saab Quality	2500	Group III

South Pacific Classic	1400	Group III

Borrelli Hand Made Clothing Sires'	1400	Group I

Jayco Stakes	1410	Group II

Queen Elizabeth Stakes	2500	Group III

Hardy Amies Stan Fox Stakes	1400	Group II

Channel 7-colonel Reeves Stakes	1200	Group III

What do you think?

If you disagree, please state why, it will help me refine the ratings in future

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Already I have noticed that too much credbility has been given to some 2 and 3yo races.

Will make adjustments and repost the amended ratings later.

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I've been up and down the list a few times and I can't seem to see the Gold Coast Magic Millions 2yo race. Is it there? I know the field was definitely lacking in strength compared to other years, but surely it should be rated ahead of a couple of the other 2yo races you've got there.

I also think you've rated WA racing too highly!!!

bit of a drop for the C.F. ORR from last year!

would have thought the cox plate would be highest- melbourne cup lacked class over the entire field...

i agree with sportz abot WA racing

BTW sportz i think you'll find the MM is not there because it is not listed or group level?

Chuck,

The Inglis 2yo races and the Adelaide Magic Millions aren't listed or group races and they're on the list. And I'm sure most would agree that the Gold Coast Magic Millions (despite a weaker than usual field last year) is stronger than those races.

Also think you've perhaps got the Turnbull Stakes a bit too low, Chrome.

also,

metropoliton = too high (railings was only reason it was high)
australian cup > victoria derby
australia stakes = too low

Hi Chuck and Sportz,

I appreciate all ideas/feedback, as this is not set in concrete and is a work in progress.

Firstly, Magic Millions is not included at all as it was not run on a Metro track, even though it was high class, only Metro track races were included.

I'm trying to achieve a balance of horses in the field (horse class) and race class (Group rating & prizemoney).

I already have some adjustments needed to the younger aged races which need implementing and also the rejig may see the Perth races drop a few notches.

Comes to a point of sacrificing one angle for another, which always puts something on the wrong rung

I'll repost my final ratings probably next week, when I have time to rerun it all.

Thanks for the input.

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Nice effort Chrome.

If these races are being rated on class, I think the Cox Plate is the top of the tree. Any trainer would agree with that. The Melb. Cup ends up with some very ordinary runners because of the distance. The stand-out of the Cup is the prize-money not the overall class of the runners.

Well done, I am sure that would of taken a lot of effort. I'm not 100% sure on the criteria, but maybe the Newmarket is a little low? Or the Blue Diamond is a little high? I.e. comparing Alinghi and Fastnet Rock to the likes of Undoubtedly Opportunity and Seidnazar.