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Old 8th December 2003, 04:00 PM
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Thought I would start a new thread, the other one is getting a bit too big!
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Old 8th December 2003, 04:01 PM
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your an ideas man paddy!
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Old 8th December 2003, 04:02 PM
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FRUIT 'N' VEG STAKES - 2000M

No. Horse Weight Barrier Jockey Trainer
1. Finito 58.0 Phil Humann
2. Emission 58.0 Paul Harvey Cliff Brown
3. Corporate Bruce 58.0 Hec Mc Laren
4. Main Stage 58.0 Allan Taylor
5. True Steel 58.0 Maxine Payne
6. Hardrada 57.5 Jason Whiting Lou Luciani
7. Kentiara 55.5 Robert Harvey (Jnr)
8. Free At Last (NZ) 55.5 Alan Mathews
9. Superior Star 55.0 Neville Parnham
10. Milanova 55.0 Tony Mc Evoy
11. Crimson Sakura 55.0 John Claite Robert Matthews
12. River Mist 51.0 Peter Knuckey George Daly
13. Laetare 51.0 Patrick Carbery Ted Martinovich
14. Spirit Lady 48.5 Fred Kersley
EMERGENCY RUNNERS
15. Mogul E1 58.0 Lindsey Smith
16. Alibi Bay E2 58.0 Paul Miller
17. Magic Aces E3 51.0 Peter Giadresco
18. Heavy Nova E4 58.0 Fred Kersley


Barrier draw tomorrow.
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Old 8th December 2003, 04:21 PM
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(13) LAETARE is my top tip. Last start ran home strongly beaten 1len over this distance. Drops a massive 6.5kg on that run.

(1) FINITO is my next best. Ran a close 2nd in this race last year (1800M), running on strongly. Put in a shocker last start in the Railway Stakes. Can improve dramatically.

(6) HARDRADA is my third choice. Beaten odds-on favourite (1len) last year in this race. Looks to be a much stronger horse this year.

(12) RIVER MIST my fourth choice. Won the WA Guineas (1600M) is fine style 2 starts back. Not a bad run behind Hardrada in the Railway Stakes. Meets that horse 4.5kg better in this race.

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Old 8th December 2003, 04:44 PM
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Paddy i watched laetare's last two runs and i think he peaked on his run in both of them. I cant see him running 2000metres. I give river n=mist a top e/w hope. Hardrada is a risk over 2000m, he is built like a sprinter but on his railway run he is almost a certainty, he travelled about 1900m in the railway. Finito if right is great value, doubt he'll be 20/1 on the day. Pretty tough race, you have to respect emission, hard to see the rest of them doing any good.

In summation it looks like the class horses either have a query over their form/fitness and/or their ability to run 2000m while the 2000m horses it appears lack the class. It is one tricky race I have to put Hardrada on top from finito then emission and river mist.

Hardrada
Finito
Emission
River Mist

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Old 8th December 2003, 04:49 PM
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superior star, crimson sakura and free at last may be value but all have to rise to the class. Very hard. The pocket rocket corporate bruce is also silly value.

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Old 8th December 2003, 04:56 PM
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Current WA TAB odds:

HARDRADA $3.40
FREE AT LAST $5.50
LAETARE $6.50
RIVER MIST $11.00
CRIMSON SAKURA $12.00
EMISSION $12.00
MILANOVA $12.00
SPIRIT LADY $12.00
TRUE STEEL $13.00
FINITO $15.00
SUPERIOR STAR $21.00
MOGUL (1EM) $35.00
MAGIC ACES (3EM) $41.00
CORPORATE BRUCE $41.00
KENTIARA $51.00
ALIBI BAY (2EM) $81.00
HEAVY NOVA (4EM) $101.00
MAIN STAGE $101.00







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Old 8th December 2003, 05:02 PM
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wa tab betting to approx 130%. what a joke. problem is soft bookies will do similar on saturday.
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Old 8th December 2003, 05:04 PM
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Looking at the current odds, EW Corporate Bruce (40/1) is not as silly as you think umrum. After all he did run 2nd in this race last year beaten only 0.5 length. Kentiara at 50/1 is also another that looks to be over the odds (EW).



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Old 8th December 2003, 05:08 PM
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that was my point sandgroper. silly odds for a good horse. read it again. :razz:
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