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Old 23rd January 2018, 11:46 AM
Bhagwan Bhagwan is offline
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Hi.
Here's a system that throws up heaps of winners.
With some juicy prices.

Target the top 2 Tips in Qld Tatts site where the live market is.
Or any other top 2 source you like to use.

If neither is the Fav, bet 2 units on the shorter price non-fav in the live market & 1 unit on the longer price.

If one of the 2 tips is the Fav, bet 2 units on the non-Fav & 1 unit on the Fav

We are betting 3 units a race. Eg 2+1=3
This helps avoid long runs of outs, which most punters find difficult to keep focused, when its happening

Target races 1-6 only. For greater percentage S/R

Have a bank of 60◊3units= 180 units.

The S/R is approx 40-45% sticking to first 6 races.

Its amazing some of the good prices it jags on it's day, especially when the odds-on pop gets rolled.


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Old 23rd January 2018, 01:47 PM
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Iíve been mucking around with something similar using Sky Racing predictor. I take the 2 top selections if the bottom 2 have a rating less than 90.

I havenít tried it live yet, but have got a few 20 plus up in the last week or so in simulation mode.
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Old 24th January 2018, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
Hi.
Here's a system that throws up heaps of winners.
With some juicy prices.

Target the top 2 Tips in Qld Tatts site where the live market is.
Or any other top 2 source you like to use.

If neither is the Fav, bet 2 units on the shorter price non-fav in the live market & 1 unit on the longer price.

If one of the 2 tips is the Fav, bet 2 units on the non-Fav & 1 unit on the Fav

We are betting 3 units a race. Eg 2+1=3
This helps avoid long runs of outs, which most punters find difficult to keep focused, when its happening

Target races 1-6 only. For greater percentage S/R

Have a bank of 60◊3units= 180 units.

The S/R is approx 40-45% sticking to first 6 races.

Its amazing some of the good prices it jags on it's day, especially when the odds-on pop gets rolled.


Smart punters do their research.



I ran through this quickly for Hawkesbury, Ballarat and Gold Coast for today. Ballarat produced a nice profit but the other 2 did not. However, with odds-on winners at Hawkesbury and Gold Coast running riot, maybe if we exclude races where the favourite is $2 or less, may get a better result. It also probably produces a different result based on which tipsters you are looking at on the day.

However, overall if we bet $54, we got $60.7 return, that's $6.7 back which is 12% return. Also, we got a return from 12 races out of 18 - which did indeed reduce the runs of out that we all experience. Not bad.

I'll have another look tomorrow...
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Old 25th January 2018, 06:59 AM
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maybe if we exclude races where the favourite is $2 or less, may get a better result.


Trouble might be though that when you've got those odds on nags falling over then you'd miss out on the bigger wins.
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Old 25th January 2018, 10:22 AM
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According to Malcolm K research Odds on Win 48.2 %.

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Old 25th January 2018, 06:28 PM
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I ran through this again for Tamworth, Murray Bridge and Rockhampton for today. All 3 ended with losses. There were some odds-on runners today but it really didn't make any difference. Again, it probably produces a different result based on which tipsters you are looking at on the day.

Overall if we bet $54, we got $14.4 return, that's a big loss. We got a return from 4 races out of 18 - which is disappointing too. While there were some unexpected longshot winners, we can't get them because the tipsters don't generally go for these type of runners.

I suppose you need to pick a couple of tipsters that produce reliable results - and that may make a difference to the outcome. I was using SkyRacing tipsters for most of the selections.
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Old 25th January 2018, 06:58 PM
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According to C Prince's database odds on runners i.e less than $2

Selections 24,979
Winners 13,191
Place 20,221
Win S/R 52.84%
Place S/R 80.95%
POT Win -11.48
POT PLACE -4.66
Avge div
Win $1.68
Place $1.18
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Old 25th January 2018, 07:08 PM
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I ran through this again for Tamworth, Murray Bridge and Rockhampton for today. All 3 ended with losses. .


This is what tends to happen with quick tip systems. They go well for a few days and hit a horrendous run. They are quick tip for a reason and that is because hardly any effort goes into the selections. 90% of punters put in little effort into their selections and we know what happens to 90% of punters (they lose).
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Old 25th January 2018, 10:46 PM
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repeat, yes all systems win but not ALL of the time. e.g. take the first horse in PP market @ $10, sometimes this will produce winners willy nilly (for a while) and intermittently, but in the end it is obviously a loser. The trick then is to figure a way to exploit a system when it IS winning and ride it out when it isn't
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Old 27th January 2018, 07:36 AM
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One angle to increase the value.

Target tipsters 2nd & 3rd selections
Less SR, greater prices.

Make sure main bet is $3.30+

Results do depend on that tipster, on that day.

Tipsters with the greatest SR are the ones on QLD Tatts site.
Especially the guest tipster on the RHSide. For value.
Based on 2yrs research.

Example. Results for the said Tam, Murray, Rocky Thur 25/1/18
Ret 67
O/L 54
Tot +13
25% Pot

5 from 18 = 28% SR

Divs, 14.20- 6.50- 4.20- 7.80- 1.90
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