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Old 10th July 2002, 01:38 PM
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Bert's struggling so far.

WF
1/8. Winner was under $4 so not bet.

Ipswich
1/6. Winner was too short - no bet.

Sandown
1/7. Winner was too short - no bet.

Gawler
1/7. Winner paid $19.30 in NSW.

Belmont
1/4 - Our Big Paddy delivers at $4! First win for the day!

2 qualifiers have won so far $4 and $19.




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Old 10th July 2002, 03:48 PM
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To Bert's credit he has now tipped at $19 winner at Gawler. However after about 20 losses most would have given up by then.
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Old 10th July 2002, 04:47 PM
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lambarsua,

Think you'd better check that Gawler result again - according to the selections I received there was no winner except Race 8 (and that was less than $4). (If you are sure please post the details in case I have missed something). Also the $4 winner at Belmont was not a selection by my interpretation of the rules (was showing 3.70 on UNITAB at jump time). Will post my full results after last race at Belmont but it's not looking good!
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Old 10th July 2002, 04:51 PM
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Update,

With 2 races to go at Belmont. Still just the two qualifying winners - $4 and $19. He did pick a few short priced winners, but they don't qualify under his rules.

People can judge for themselves, but I wouldn't pay money for selections like these.

It appears his selections are made using some sort of formula based around DLR.

The two winners had a short period b/t runs -6 and 11 days.

A few of his selections were 1st up - I don't know if they trialled recently or not.

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Old 10th July 2002, 04:54 PM
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Becareful,

He had some possible longshots listed on the email underneath the selections in red:

See below:

"Possible longshots=G/ler r7h9 s/down r2h6 r3h12 W/farm r4h12 r7h4 Ipswich r3h5 r8h6 B/mont r1h12 r4h5 r5h7 r6h5 r7h6 r8h4"


Out of the above one winner - Gawler r7 h9.
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Old 10th July 2002, 05:04 PM
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Allup they was about 55 selections after scratchings. After eliminating horses which were too short you'd be left with about 40 horses (Becareful may have more precise nos).

Only 2 of these won - $19 and $4.

So your loss would be significant. Unless you adopted a staking plan that avoided all those losses prior to the $19 winner!

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Old 10th July 2002, 05:17 PM
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lumbarsua,

Thanks for that - I am working off the spreadsheet which you can download from him (containing the formulas for his bet sizing, etc) - this did not contain those "possible longshots" so I have not included them in my analysis. I have simply followed the rules and all the selections in the spreadsheet and will post the full results after last race at Belmont (and after I have had some dinner).
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Old 10th July 2002, 06:33 PM
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Crikey
How am I supposed to get a fair shake here if you can't even get the results right.
where the heck did you pull that $19.30 winner from.
I would be happy to help any of you make some money , but get the bookwork right to start with.
All of you who received the free trial this morning can now go back and download it again and it has all the results on it done by my students and I checked it as it was happening , because I also bet them myself, so I know it is correct.
My stsudents worked on a $5 target and earned a profit of $21.20 or 7.7% on investment,
And we had a bad day, I only produced one winner at $4 or better.
regards bert
regards bert
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Old 10th July 2002, 07:17 PM
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What? How did you turn 20 losses in a profit???

You're kidding!
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Old 10th July 2002, 07:34 PM
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There were actually 18 losses.
see my spreadsheet , I have uploaded it on the website.

http://www.******************************.com.au/D020710cent.xls

I keep telling you guys that your conventional way of betting does not work on my selections , so don't try to do it, it will not show a profit.
MY WAY DOES.

regards Bert
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