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Old 7th August 2018, 11:31 PM
Alex H. Alex H. is offline
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Default Renegade "Winning Without Form"

We've reorganised the office, in the process I've found my old (2005) manual from the now defunct Punting Ace.

Is anyone still using this system? How has it been working out for you?

Did it turn, like so many betting systems do?
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Old 8th August 2018, 07:58 AM
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I remember hearing about this a long time ago. I can't remember the rules now but I did see them.

I may be using some form of what was in it but without remembering the rules I can't say. I have seen lots of these winning without form type of systems.
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Old 8th August 2018, 08:58 AM
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Thread from years back here, goes off topic from the Renegade, but might find of interest.

http://www.propun.com.au/forums/sho...hlight=renegade
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Old 8th August 2018, 09:39 AM
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I obviously stopped following that method at some point as it is not one of my current systems. Probably when IasBet was bought out by sportsbet.
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Old 11th August 2018, 12:16 AM
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I can say this now, as the mob selling it are defunct.

It worked for a while here, and people that bought it did make some money, but it did have it's ups and downs. Firstly, the whole idea was started on this forum and they missed out on some key aspects. I pointed this out and they rang the owners of this site stating that it was their thought and not "ours". The thread was deleted just to stop any legal problems.

Then they tried to sell it for UK racing and it flopped big time, an internet search will tell you all you need to know about that.

I don't know of anyone using it now according to all the rules they set out specifically, because there was a flaw they overlooked. And where are they now, they closed down due to "pursuing sports betting and other interests."
They don't sell anything, their forum is gone, and all I hear are crickets.
I was right all along.
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Old 11th August 2018, 12:22 AM
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I obviously stopped following that method at some point as it is not one of my current systems. Probably when IasBet was bought out by sportsbet.


The difference was that IASBet, used Mark Read's database and if you went by their odds which were quite different to other corporates on certain horses, you could have made a killing. When IAS was taken over / sold, those odds disappeared and I have an old spreadsheet somewhere showing how far above the competition Mark Read's database was.
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Old 18th August 2018, 10:27 AM
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I can say this now, as the mob selling it are defunct.

It worked for a while here, and people that bought it did make some money, but it did have it's ups and downs. the whole idea was started on this forum and they missed out on some key aspects.

it flopped big time, an internet search will tell you all you need to know about that.


I received a gratuitous "review copy" or "copy for review" as the thing started. Ran some analyses as best I could and wasn't too impressed. It just didn't seem right, but it did well for a while .......... and then the fan was hit and it went down the gurgler closely followed by the proponents "Tennis System".

UB is right. The things to think about are WSR and Price On Offer. You wanna bet a horse at $10 on TAB (at the off) then you have an 8.5% chance of it winning. .... do the maths :-(
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