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Old 3rd April 2016, 11:09 PM
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Thumbs up Another interesting betting system

This betting system is very selective, but has done well over the years.

Every so often I have checked the results for a few weeks and it continues to perform.

Here are the rules:

1. Bet only on Saturday metropolitan meetings.

2. Eliminate races for 2YOs and jumpers.

3. The horse must have had its last start no more than 21 days ago.

4. It must have at least a 20% winning strike rate.

5. It must have finished no worse than 5 lengths behind the winner at its last start.

6. It must have won at least one of its last six starts.

7. It must be the only qualifier in the race. If there are two or more qualifiers in a race do not bet.
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Old 4th April 2016, 07:54 AM
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Please explain 'only qualifier'
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Old 4th April 2016, 09:48 AM
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The horse is a bet if the system selects one horse only in the race.

If the system selects 2 or more horses in the same race NO BET.
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Old 5th April 2016, 06:26 AM
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6.1% LOT since 2008


1. Thanks. What odds are you using? If it is one state's TAB odds then clearly we can do much better.

2. What programme did you use?

3. Was all the data correctly inputted?

4. Assuming you are correct, in a period of 8 years there would most likely be some winning years.

5. Most punters lose much more than 6.1% of turnover. We'd be laughing if the tote just took out 6%.

6. Racing factors change over time - so what might previously have won stops. Eg. a massive track bias developing at Flemington. That's what good system punters are on the look out for.
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Old 7th April 2016, 11:54 AM
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I looked at yesterday's Sandown meeting.

NSW tote first, then best tote odds, then increased win Percentage with Best Tote.

$1.70 $1.90 Best Tote plus 29%
$8.90 $9.10 Best Tote plus 5%
$20.70 $22.90 Best Tote plus 21%
$3.40 $3.70 Best Tote plus 13%
$4.30 $4.90 Best Tote plus 18%
$6.00 $6.80 Best Tote plus 16%

I'll suggest that 6.1% LOT is wiped out using Best Tote.
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Old 7th April 2016, 12:13 PM
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I looked at yesterday's Sandown meeting.

NSW tote first, then best tote odds, then increased win Percentage with Best Tote.

$1.70 $1.90 Best Tote plus 29%
$8.90 $9.10 Best Tote plus 5%
$20.70 $22.90 Best Tote plus 21%
$3.40 $3.70 Best Tote plus 13%
$4.30 $4.90 Best Tote plus 18%
$6.00 $6.80 Best Tote plus 16%

I'll suggest that 6.1% LOT is wiped out using Best Tote.


I am confused by those percentages.
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Old 7th April 2016, 01:14 PM
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I'm with you Shaun were those %'s plucked at random?
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Old 7th April 2016, 02:11 PM
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I'm with you Shaun were those %'s plucked at random?


No!!

Using the first example:

NSW tote $1.70
Best Tote $1.90
So to make 90 cents profit instead of 70 cents profit is 29% more profit!
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Old 7th April 2016, 03:36 PM
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ok using your example, on the second bet:

$8.10 profit vs $7.90 profit is 2.5% more profit, not 5%

third bet:

$21.90 profit vs $19.70 profit is 11.2% more profit, not 21%

I know it seems like I'm being picky but I put together 30+ page advice documents for clients all the time and one thing I've learnt is get 1 figure wrong and it puts people's belief in the rest of the document (information) in question.

I'm glad you've put these threads up generating some system discussion and agree that if Vortech hasn't tested at best tote then that may in itself create the edge. Interested to hear from Vortech whether thats the case or he did already test at best tote.
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Old 7th April 2016, 04:40 PM
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evajb001, You're quite right.

Thanks.

I normally don't get figures like that wrong.
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