Spot on....
But I am presuming that this is to be used as a purely mechanical system. Input the six rules and there is your selection.
Obviously video watching and studying the race would be much more beneficial.

Also my previous post was based on a situation where the winners of the 2 races were rated equally.
From a numbers aspect, I believe this would provide more value.

If anyone thinks a 13th beaten 8L is equal to a 2nd beaten 8L (given all else equal) then they should be in a different game.

Doriemus ran 2nd beaten 7.5 lengths to Might and Power in the 96 Caulfield Cup. In this years Caulfield Cup, Hollow Bullet ran 12th beaten 7 lengths. By that abundantly absurd reasoning, Hollow Bullet's run was better.

Whoever believes that, don't bet any more. Give your money to charity instead. You'll end up the same financially and at least some needy people will benefit.

you are assuming the quality of both cups was the same...and secondly ..imagine if all research was derived from one example..lol

lol a good point.

And of course they weren't both the same, M&P's was far stronger, but as an example it serves the point.

To put it another way:

Horse A runs 2nd in a class 1 at Bendigo, beaten 6 lengths.

Horse B, in a class 1 at Bendigo of exactly the same strength, runs 9th, beaten 6 lengths.

I would argue Horse A's run was better, others would disagree, but now what if this happens:

One metre before the line, in Horse A's race, the horse who was leading by 6 dumps the rider, meaning Horse A wins.....

In Horse B's race, Horse B is still beaten 6 lengths into 9th place.

So, are those two runs still of the same strength?

(And if you go back in time and shoot your Grandfather, do you cease to exist?)

And if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.

Ah yes, good old uncle susan. How is your uncle susan Kenchar?

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I don't know about uncle susan but I had some samples taken today for prostate cancer and feel like auntie kenchar.

I would go further than this. I think we have to assume we are talking about the same horse winning the same race otherwise the whole argument is pretty meaningless but:
The horse that came second is likely to have been ridden fully out with the hope of getting a place and the horse which finished 13th may well have eased up towards the end realising there was no chance of a place. So we have a horse that tried real hard and finished 8L worse than our "standard horse" compared to a horse that cruised home and still finished 8L behind the "standard horse".

KV

BTW. I made the mistake of not viewing the forum for almost 48 hours and another thread has dissappeared. What happened with the 90% strike rate thing? Was the guy for real with the 90%? Why did it dissappear?

Or

The horse that ran second may have been eased up knowing he couldn't catch the winner and was well clear of the third horse, and the horse that ran 13th may have had it's ears scrubbed off trying to run 5th (there's a prize for 5th).

Too much speculation without seeing the race.

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