The attached table shows a comparison of results (and of dutching the Top 2) for seven different ratings .... 4 freely available on the 'net, and 3 paid sets. The period is all races over a 2 years period (except Maiden races). Draw your own conclusions :-)

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Hi Demodocus,

Any chance you could pass on the details of the 'Paid 3" providers.

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One of the things the spreadsheet i'm currently using creates a 'Rating of Ratings' so to speak. Basically brings in ratings from a few different sources, combines them together to create a singular rating or price. Interestingly enough so far (short period recording the stats) it looks like the top rater has an ok strike rate but poor profit (I assume because its overbet) whilst the ones after that show improved profit as I assume these are giving better value.

However I'm still of the belief that if you can find or create:

a) A decent speed rating
b) A decent speed map

then you've got a pretty good head start against the other punters your competing with.

Very interesting results, thanks for posting.
It's pretty clear that all of them are missing something.
There are guys out there doing it professionally every day, so there's a factor that is either left out or doubled up on at some point within the ratings.
From my point of view the Techform ratings along with a few other factors were very very good.
None of those in the table were able to beat public opinion.

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Having a set of successful ratings to me is simply what factor(s),
Are included that are their makeup.

Obviously the free sets of ratings on the net basically contain,
Statistical data that is freely available for everyone everywhere to use,
And are usually over-bet.(w%-pl%- api - good recent form etc),
While this will lead to reasonable strike rates it won't make you money.

The trick is to formulate statistical data that is not that well known
Or used but still have relevance in selecting winners.

In saying the above that doesn't mean the well known statistics,
Can't be included, just in what circumstances & how often they are used,
And with what other data they correlate with for improvement of profits,
And strike/rates.

For instance I include a free set of ratings in mine but they,
And their data is only looked at in certain circumstances.

If getting the free ratings on the net would make you money,
Then why would most of us not be in the 5% that win.

If it was only that easy.

Cheers.
Garyf.

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I have just finished researching 13/6/14 to 30/6/14 for the win selection tipping results for 2 paid subscriptions and 1 freebie. The results cover all race meetings (with the exception of a few isolated meetings) and all conditions of tracks. I used the providers winning tips in their overall/concensus selections/tips for the 745 races covered.
The reason I have paid subscriptions is to help ensure my bet selections are somewhere near on track. I found the results very surprising seeing that the paid subscriptions have "insights" into there "expert" selections. One paid subscription and one freebie have transparent archived results whereas the other paid subscription did not.

Paid 1 158 selected winners - 745 races = 21.20 %
Paid 2 160 selected winners - 745 races = 21.47 %
Freebie 186 selected winners - 745 races = 24.96 %

I am presently covering June with the same criteria but will be adding another freebie. Barring unforseen circumstances I will add the results to this thread.

I would suggest that the strike rates mean nothing without the average price of winners - to ascertain profit or loss

That was what I was going to say. You can have a 99% lay selection strike rate and still be losing on the profit front.

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Taking a punt here, they'd all be in loss which is why he didn't bother.

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