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Old 16th December 2016, 04:44 PM
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Old 19th December 2016, 07:49 AM
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Here are the rules.

2. The 2YO must be a last start winner between 1 length and 3.75 lengths in its current campaign.


hello Neil
curious why you've set the max winning margin at 3.75 lengths

Ours To Keep who won the listed 2yo event at Doomben on Saturday won his previous start at Doomben by 4.30 lengths (thus not qualifying by your current rules)

a winning margin > 3.75 lengths especially on a city track, not a good thing?
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Old 19th December 2016, 03:54 PM
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hello Neil
curious why you've set the max winning margin at 3.75 lengths

Ours To Keep who won the listed 2yo event at Doomben on Saturday won his previous start at Doomben by 4.30 lengths (thus not qualifying by your current rules)

a winning margin > 3.75 lengths especially on a city track, not a good thing?

similar scenario she will reign
won the inglis nursery at randwick saturday
previous start 8.3len winner kembla grange
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Old 20th December 2016, 06:08 PM
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When discussing this many years ago with a successful punting friend he suggested with automatic rules like in betting systems 4l. plus often indicates a very weak beaten field.

Different when using judgement etc.
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Old 20th December 2016, 07:53 PM
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When discussing this many years ago with a successful punting friend he suggested with automatic rules like in betting systems 4l. plus often indicates a very weak beaten field.

Different when using judgement etc.



If you find no other horses from that race where this horse won have gone on to be competitive or win then yes it is a weak field and you discount the winning lengths, but if 2 or 3 of those horses have gone on to place or win other races then its a very good 4L win.

As always its a "depends" which make the difference of a profit or a loss and it needs to be coded into your system logic or handicapping process.
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Old 21st December 2016, 12:39 PM
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If you find no other horses from that race where this horse won have gone on to be competitive or win then yes it is a weak field and you discount the winning lengths, but if 2 or 3 of those horses have gone on to place or win other races then its a very good 4L win.

As always its a "depends" which make the difference of a profit or a loss and it needs to be coded into your system logic or handicapping process.

yep, max 3.75len as a guide, use your own judgement anything over
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Old 2nd January 2017, 03:55 AM
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2yo Gift Of Power made it three in a row,,Trentham Saturday


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princess rihanna looked good, debut win a couple of weeks ago

New kid on the block,,Hasahalo
Won yesterdays Eclipse Stakes at Ellerslie
Gift Of Power a close 2nd
Princess Rihanna 4th,,no luck,,squeezed out at the start & then tightened again in the closing stages of the race
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Old 8th January 2017, 04:43 AM
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New kid on the block,,Hasahalo
Won yesterdays Eclipse Stakes at Ellerslie
Gift Of Power a close 2nd
Princess Rihanna 4th,,no luck,,squeezed out at the start & then tightened again in the closing stages of the race

2017 Karaka Million Order of Entry

Current top 5

1 Gift of Power
2 Hasahalo
3 Star Treasure
4 Talaria
5 Princess Rihanna
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Old 18th January 2017, 03:18 AM
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Felton Road was a qualifier at Ellerslie on Saturday
Won his race & moves up to 6th spot,,Karaka Million order of entry
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Old 14th March 2017, 11:21 AM
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Seven last start winners in the Golden Slipper final field
They are (last start winning margin)

Houtzen 4L
Trapeze Artist 3L
Frolic 2.3L
Tulip 1.8L
Catchy 0.4L
Single Bullet 0.2L
Diamond Tathagata 0.2L
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