Just posting this now as a word of warning for you to start thinking about what horses are going to win the big ones. I'm going to open up this comp after Saturday's races, and it will run on all group 1 & group 2 races run in Sydney & Melbourne between next Saturday (Sep 12) and the end of the Melbourne Cup carnival. It's going to be based on scoring points for finishing in the first 4 in each of these feature races. Ohhh and something a bit different this time. We have a trainer and a jockey in our stable as well who earn points for us.

Okay, here we go. Firstly here's the list of races we'll be using for our comp....

The numbers in brackets are the points that go to the horses finishing 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th, then the points that go to the winning trainer, then the winning jockey.

Sep12-09

M. Valley Manikato Stakes 1200m Open WFA
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

M. Valley W H Stocks Stakes 1600m WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

M. Valley Dato Tan Chin Nam Stakes 1600m WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

M. Valley McEwen Stakes 1000m WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Rosehill Theo Marks Stakes 1300m Quality Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Sep19-09

Caulfield Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes 1400m Open Hcp
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Caulfield Underwood Stakes 1800m 3yo+ WFA
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Rosehill Tea Rose Stakes 1500m 3yoF SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Rosehill Shannon Stakes 1500m Quality Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Rosehill Hill Stakes 1900m WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Sep25/26-09

M. Valley Stutt Stakes 1600m 3yo SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Randwick George Main Stakes 1600m WFA
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Randwick Stan Fox Stakes 1400m 3yo SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Oct03-09

Flemington Turnbull Stakes 2000m 4yo+ SWP
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)

Flemington Rose of Kingston Stakes 1400ma Mares SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Flemington Gilgai Stakes 1200ma Open SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Flemington Edward Manifold Stakes 1600ma 3yoF SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Randwick Epsom Handicap 1600m 3yo+ Hcp
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Randwick Flight Stakes 1600m 3yoF SW
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Randwick Spring Champion Stakes 2000m 3yo SW
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Randwick The Metropolitan 2400m 3yo+ Hcp
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Randwick Roman Consul Stakes 1200ma 3yo SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Randwick The Shorts 1100ma Open SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Oct10-09

Caulfield Caulfield Guineas 1600m 3yo SW
(32,16,8,4) (16) (8)

Caulfield Yalumba Stakes 1600m Open Hcp
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Caulfield Toorak Handicap 2000m 3yo+ WFA
(16,8,4,2) (8) (4)

Caulfield Schillaci Stakes 1000ma WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Caulfield Presentation Stakes 2400ma Quality Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Oct14-09

Caulfield Thousand Guineas 1600m 3yoF SW
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)


Oct17-09

Caulfield Caulfield Cup 2400m Open Hcp
(48,24,12,6) (24) (12)

Caulfield Tristarc Stakes 1400ma Mares SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Caulfield Caulfield Sprint 1100ma Open Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Oct24-09

M. Valley Ws Cox Plate 2040m 3yo+ WFA
(32,16,8,4) (16) (8)

M. Valley Cathay Pacific Airways Cup 2500ma Open SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

M. Valley Schweppes Stakes 1200ma WFA
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

M. Valley AAMI Vase 2040ma 3yo SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

M. Valley Crystal Mile 1600ma Open Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Oct31-09

Flemington Myer Classic 1200m 3yo SW
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)

Flemington LKS Mackinnon Stakes 2000m Open WFA
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)

Flemington Coolmore Stud Stakes 1600m F&M WFA
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)

Flemington AAMI Victoria Derby 2500m 3yo SW
(40,20,10,5) (20) (10)

Flemington Wakeful Stakes 2000ma 3yoF SW
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

Flemington Salinger Stakes 1200ma Open Hcp
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)


Nov03-09

Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m Open Hcp
(64,32,16,8) (32) (16)


Nov05-09

Flemington Crown Oaks 2500m 3yoF SW
(32,16,8,4) (16) (8)

Nov07-09

Flemington Age Classic 1200m Open WFA
(24,12,6,3) (12) (6)

Flemington Emirates Stakes 1600m Open Qlty
(32,16,8,4) (16) (8)

Flemington Matriach Stakes 2000ma Mares SW+P
(8,4,2,1) (4) (2)

The first thing we have to do is pick our 3 "stable stars" and our trainer.

The "stable stars" are 3 horses that we pick now and they stay with us right through to the end of the comp, injury, poor form whatever. You get double points for your stable stars.

As well as picking these 3 horses, we also have to pick a trainer for our stable, and again, your trainer stays with you right to the end of the comp. We will be able to pick a different jockey each race day, but only one trainer for the whole duration of the comp, so we have to choose wisely.

Now, each horse, trainer and jockey is given a rating out of 5 points, and the salary cap for this first part of the comp is 15 points. In other words, we have to find 3 "stable stars" AND a trainer and they must add up to no more than 15 points in total. I've listed 100 horses and 20 trainers here, but you can choose a horse or trainer that I haven't listed if you want and that will cost you just 1 point. There are possibly some good horses which I've left out by mistake, in which case, you have a bargain.

Here's the list......

STABLE STARS
5 . DENMAN
5 . SPEED GIFTED
5 . VIGOR
5 . WHOBEGOTYOU
4 . BLACK CAVIAR
4 . BLACK PIRANHA
4 . C'EST LE GUERRE
4 . EFFICIENT
4 . EL SEGUNDO
4 . HEART OF DREAMS
4 . MALDIVIAN
4 . MASTER O'REILLY
4 . MIC MAC
4 . O'LONHRO
4 . PREDATORY PRICER
4 . PROFOUND BEAUTY
4 . SHOCKING
4 . TRUSTING
4 . TYPHOON TRACY
4 . VIEWED
3 . APACHE CAT
3 . CARRARA
3 . CHANGINGOFTHEGUARD
3 . DAFFODIL
3 . GALLICA
3 . HISSING SID
3 . JOLIE'S SHINJU
3 . MANHATTAN RAIN
3 . MELITO
3 . MENTALITY
3 . METAL BENDER
3 . MORE THAN GREAT
3 . MOTI
3 . NEROLI
3 . NOM DE JEU
3 . ONEMORENOMORE
3 . ORTENSIA
3 . PRECEDENCE
3 . RACING TO WIN
3 . RAFFAELLO
3 . RANGIRANGDOO
3 . RED RULER
3 . ROCK KINGDOM
3 . ROMAN EMPEROR
3 . SCENIC BLAST
3 . SO YOU THINK
3 . SWIFT ALLIANCE
3 . TOLLESPRIT
3 . TRIPLE HONOUR
3 . TUESDAY JOY
3 . VISION AND POWER
3 . ZIPPING
2 . AGE OF AQUARIUS
2 . ALOHA
2 . AVENUE
2 . BANK ROBBER
2 . BATTLEFIELD
2 . CAT'S WHISKER
2 . CHASM
2 . COURT COMMAND
2 . DREAMSCAPE
2 . DRUMBEATS
2 . EL CAMBIO
2 . EMPEROR BONAPARTE
2 . FIST OF FURY
2 . GOLD SALUTE
2 . HARRIS TWEED
2 . HEADWAY
2 . HUS DER LIEFTEN
2 . HUXSSEN
2 . IRISH LIGHTS
2 . ISTA KAREEM
2 . LORD TAVISTOCK
2 . MISS MAREN
2 . MISS MARIELLE
2 . MORE JOYOUS
2 . MOURILYAN
2 . MR BARITONE
2 . MR CLANGTASTIC
2 . NICCONI
2 . PHELAN READY
2 . PRE EMINENCE
2 . RAHEEB
2 . RAREFIED
2 . READY TO LIFT
2 . ROSTOVA
2 . SCHIAPARELLI
2 . SEA BATTLE
2 . SECRET FLYER
2 . STARSPANGLEDBANNER
2 . STONEBLACK
2 . STRAT'S FLYER
2 . SWISS ACE
2 . TICKETS
2 . TURFFONTEIN
2 . TYPHOON ZED
2 . UNSUNG HEROINE
2 . VOICE COACH
2 . WANTED
2 . ZAGREB
1 . Any other horse not listed here.

TRAINER
5 . DAVID HAYES
5 . LEE FREEDMAN
5 . PETER SNOWDEN
4 . DANNY O'BRIEN
4 . GAI WATERHOUSE
4 . MARK KAVANAGH
4 . PETER MOODY
3 . BART CUMMINGS
3 . GREG EURELL
3 . JOHN HAWKES
3 . JOHN SADLER
3 . MICK PRICE
2 . ANTHONY CUMMINGS
2 . CHRIS WALLER
2 . DAVID PAYNE
2 . GERALD RYAN
2 . GRAEME ROGERSON
2 . JASON COYLE
2 . JOSEPH PRIDE
2 . PAUL MURRAY
1 . Any other trainer not listed here.


You have until Midnight Wednesday, September 9 to post your entries with your 3 stable stars and your trainer.

Then on Thursday, we start choosing horses and a jockey for next Saturday's racing.

sounds interesting sportz..

trainer..david hayes (5)..stable stars..master o'reilly (4)..mic mac (4)..cat's whisker (2)..

STABLE STARS
5 . VIGOR
4 . MASTER O'REILLY
2 . SEA BATTLE

TRAINER
4 . DANNY O'BRIEN

Good Luck...

__________________
Stix
.......Giddy Up..... !!

1. speed gifted
2. trusting
3. raheeb

trainer
mark kavanagh

Trainer
Mark kavanagh(4)
Stable
Cest la guerre(4)
Mic mac(4)
Melito(3)

Jason Coyle has been replaced as head trainer for Nathan Tinkler, so I'm making a change to the list here and putting in the new trainer - John Thompson.

TRAINER
5 . DAVID HAYES
5 . LEE FREEDMAN
5 . PETER SNOWDEN
4 . DANNY O'BRIEN
4 . GAI WATERHOUSE
4 . MARK KAVANAGH
4 . PETER MOODY
3 . BART CUMMINGS
3 . GREG EURELL
3 . JOHN HAWKES
3 . JOHN SADLER
3 . MICK PRICE
2 . ANTHONY CUMMINGS
2 . CHRIS WALLER
2 . DAVID PAYNE
2 . GERALD RYAN
2 . GRAEME ROGERSON
2 . JOSEPH PRIDE
2 . PAUL MURRAY
2 . JOHN THOMPSON
1 . Any other trainer not listed here.

Also, Black Caviar has had a setback and a start in the Thousand Guineas is in doubt now.

SPEED GIFTED - 5
SO YOU THINK - 3
TUESDAY JOY - 3
MARK KAVANAGH - 4