When I provided the results of my Neuralmania System on Monday I inadvertantly listed all races instead of omitting those run on Slow and Heavy tracks, for rain-affected tracks had shown only a break-even result. Omitting these races,(46 of them) there were 153 races from 26 May to 27 June.

As previously advised, the Top Two selections that included Slow and Heavy tracks provided a POT of 56%, but by omitting these rain-affected races the POT increased to 71%. The Top Four selections had a POT of 18% but by also omitting S and H races the POT increased to 23%. Place betting on the Top selection slightly improved both the strike-rate and POT. Since Monday 28, I have also been looking at the Second Top selection for a Place as it has had a good strike rate over the 153 races. I am no longer monitoring Slow and Heavy tracks.

Very interesting Michael.
I dabble a bit myself but do not change the settings. Are you using standard settings or something you have devised.
I check out various factors(days ,barriers etc) then apply first and second neurals at standard settings. I am keeping ahead of the game this way.
Cheers.
John,

Hi, Exandex.

It's good to see that you are winning with the neurals.

I've tried many systems with them but they always crash. Neuralmania has been the only one that has performed for more than a few weeks, in fact it has been providing constant winnings. But that is no guarantee it will continue to be successful.

I use my own settings. I omit those that I deem to be "opinion" categories; such as form, etc, as these can be a matter of opinion. For example, there was a race where Zac Purton rode at some obscure TAB meeting, but because he did not have a track record (excuse the pun) at that particular track, the Jockey Category in the neurals allocated him very few points - he won the race.

Have you tried working backwards.From a winner to the neural??I mean adjusting the settings to make a known winner your first or second rated horse.Then using those settings for future predictions.Nothing is failsafe,, but it has some merit.

Hi Michael,

Great to see that you got somehting going that is keeping you interested and hopefully winning but i have one question for you my friend.....Where are the tips??? lol.

Looking forward to them so i can mix and match .

Take care mate


Breadman

Hi, Syllabus23.

Yes, I tried that method a long time ago. I used many settings that had the winner on top, but unfortunately they all crashed.

Hi, Breadman.
I don't want to list the selections yet. They might fail, and somone could lose on them. I'd like to be able to say that after a certain amount (alot) of races the system(s) is showing ongoing success - and to bet them at your risk. I've got a couple other systems I'm currently looking at - it's good fun testing them.

The daily selections can be found on the AAP site:
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/

Cheers.

SUNDAY NEURALS.
===============

Sunshine Coast 4 July
=====================
1//
5 Move To Strike 82 08 56.5 Browne, Damien Mayfield-Smith, L pl=1.30
10 Fly Me Home 64 05 54.0 Rodd, Michael Laming, S B W=3.70 pl=1.30
9 Davone Waltz 39 03 54.0 Mcdonald, Michael Hall, T Late SCR
2//
10 Wood Dux 60 08 57.5 Scriven, S Mclachlan, B J Unpl
6 Lono's Magic 55 09 57.5 Pope, Ken Mclach Unpl
3//

2 Singin 'n'D 81 03 55.5 Browne, Damien Mclachlan, B J W=2.00 pl=1.50

4//
11 Sheer Victory 72 19 54.5 Whiteley, Chris Miller, T N Unpl
4 Persian King 71 13 56.0 Dwyer, S A SCR
6 The Gabba 42 05 55.5 Spry, C Paul Jenkins pl=2.40
5//
9 Doonan Dancer 124 03 55.0 Costello, B J SCR
11 Maizy May 51 20 55.0 Duff, P Unpl
12 Mr Lister 39 09 55.0 Katsidis, Stathi Ross, L W=5.90 pl=2.50
6//
3 Sticks 'n' Stones 71 08 58.5 Gain, A Mclachlan, B J W=3.40 pl=1.50
6 Dream 'n' Scheme 52 06 54.0 Rodd, Michael Mclachlan, B J Unpl
2 Polygram 48 03 59.0 Purton, Zac Ward, C pl=1.70

Selection = 15
SCR= 3
Invest W/P = $24
Return = $27.20
================================================== =====
Sandown-Hillside 4 July
=======================
3//
4 Sorenstam 61 09 55.5 Walker, Michael Price, M G Unpl
3 How Good Is 56 05 55.5 Sanderson, Kelvin Vasil, A J pl=2.10
8 Nasty Jester 55 04 53.5 Moor, D Lawson, R F Unpl
4//
4 Caliente Queen 84 01 55.0 Nolen, Luke Eurell, G pl=2.00
1 Miss Drawcard 63 11 58.0 Maloney, Ryan Griffiths, R D Unpl
2 Paris Zero 62 08 56.0 Ryan, Nick W=3.20 pl=1.50
5//
1 Dua Awali 62 05 58.0 Hoppo, Michael Reynolds, D W Unpl
17 Gradabra 55 10 54.5 Curran, D T SCR
7 Oceana Star 49 01 54.5 Mertens, Peter Proctor, W=20.10 pl=5.70
3 Cyclonic Bay 48 06 55.5 Nikolic, Danny Mitchell, F W Unpl
6//
1 Marwina Lass 104 05 58.0 Prebble, Brett Noonan, A W Unpl
5 Written By A Q 84 03 55.5 Duric, Vlad Smerdon, R W Unpl
3 Callandoon 73 08 55.5 Werner, Brian Hyland, P T Unpl
7//
3 Civil 87 16 55.5 Darmanin, Anthony Bradley Marzato Unpl
4 Mr. Gorsky 54 07 55.0 Shinn, Blake Little, C W W=5.10 pl=1.90

Selection = 15
SCR = 1
Invest W/P = $28
Return = $41.60

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Werribee 4 July
===============
1//
6 Rokocoko 65 06 56.5 Hall, Vince Ellerton, M J W=2.10 pl=1.30
1 Fissile 58 11 56.5 Cassar, Eddie Lawson, R F Unpl
12 Racing T 55 03 54.0 Winks, James Riley, J L Unpl
4 Our Forest 51 10 56.5 Coffey, Lincoln Racovolis, Unpl
2//
12 Sunset Serenade 74 12 54.0 Gatt, Matthew Ricky Maund pl=1.80
9 Bonney Girl 68 09 54.0 Carson, T C Cooke, M
8 Under Command 59 10 56.5 Rawiller, Brad Mitchell, pl=1.40
4 Real Trick 57 03 56.5 Brereton, Danny Hore-Lacy, W=4.40 pl=1.30
3//
8 Jacquesson 73 01 56.5 Rawiller, Brad Wood, C J pl=1.50
10 Lucy Locket 52 13 56.5 Marshall, Collin Kelly, T pl=2.70
12 My Pal Kachinka 50 08 56.5 Allen, Matthew Kelly, W=3.60 pl=1.40
11 Mukda Moonlight 48 09 56.5 Booth, Roger White, T C Unpl
6 Goodehere 45 16 56.5 Winks, James Dynon, A B SCR
4//
3 Late Prince 56 03 57.0 Smith, Dale Webb, S J SCR
8 Ashkalassie 55 11 54.5 Winks, James Healey, P A SCR
10 Flip Out 50 07 54.5 Cassar, Eddie Mitchell, F W Unpl
16 Steppe Eagle 37 05 57.0 Stanley, Nathan O'brien, D T pl=1.40
5//
2 Current Trend 81 03 55.0 Taggart, David Goggin, C N pl=1.60
5 Jokers Wild 79 01 53.0 Barry, Terry Hickey, Ms P Unpl
6 Judanzo 79 04 53.0 Gatt, Matthew O'sullivan, Unpl
6//
3 Senor De Lago 65 09 57.0 Moor, D Ricky Maund pl=1.80
5 Smytzer's Joseph 54 11 56.5 Cassar, Eddie Eurell, G pl=1.80
9 Big Rippler 53 03 55.0 Burford, Sam O'sullivan Unpl
7//
1 Mookta Heights 69 13 57.5 Pay, Malcolm Laming, S B SCR
3 Silver Lining 53 11 56.5 Pay, Malcolm Laing, R E W=5.00 pl=1.90
8 Arkzali 52 01 54.0 Carson, T C Krushka, A L pl=3.60
7 Running Hot 48 07 54.0 Tsaikos, Stan Ryan, D E pl=2.60
6 Don't Be A Devil 47 06 55.5 Anstice, Jamie Craddock, J S Unpl
8//
1 Light Of Day 65 10 57.0 Hall, Vince Andrew Noblet pl=3.80
4 Noah's Pearl 64 05 55.0 Murphy, Gary Connors, D J Unpl
5 Miss Rosedale 62 02 54.5 Robertson, Craig W=8.30 pl=3.30
3 Diamond Orchid 54 07 55.5 Booth, Roger Burke, Unpl
2 She's A Nightmare 47 12 57.0 Guthrie, M Halse, S Unpl
9//
1 Frammenti 76 04 58.0 Sanderson, Kelvin Vasil, W=1.90 pl=1.20
12 Tully Shall 65 05 53.5 Hyland, Sam Hyland, M P Unpl
9 Maggie's Mate 60 01 55.0 Cassar, Eddie Price, M G Unpl

Selection = 36
SCR = 4
Invest W/P = $64
Return = $59.70
================================================== ==
Hamilton 4 July
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1//
7 Jasper Ruler 123 03 65.0 Bowles, J Noonan, D M pl=2.10
3 Tully Tocchi 60 06 65.0 Williams, W Brideoake, Unpl
2 Sadler Joh 59 02 65.0 Pateman, S L Musgrove, W=3.20 pl=1.50
2//
5 Bonnie Wee Gordon 110 07 55.0 Bant, Ms L Mcarthur, J G pl=2.80
4 Rupanyup 69 05 55.0 Missen, Dale Baker, G K pl=1.70
3//
6 Prince Allusa 65 06 65.0 Evans, Jamie Macaulay, C Unpl
7 Dancing Cat 59 04 65.0 Williams, W Brideoake, D R pl=2.10
4//
12 Quobete 70 08 52.5 Bant, Ms L Mcarthur, Unpl
5 Leroy The Boy 45 14 55.0 Mc Kechnie, Ms H Preusker, pl=3.20
4 Kugah 44 01 55.5 Davis, Wayne Brideoake, D R Unpl
11 Eladnicul 44 04 53.0 Marks, Paul O'leary, M A Unpl
5//
2 My Decision 74 01 56.5 Hokai, Wayne Stanaway, B I pl=1.20
3 Cormeyer 69 11 56.0 Yendall, Dean Marshman, Ms B E Unpl
10 On Vacance 69 07 55.5 Post, Kane Saxon, D C pl=2.50
1 Iggy 67 06 56.5 Evans, Michael Musgrove, W=4.60 pl=1.80
6//
10 Burst The Bubble 93 12 54.0 Mason, Ms Caroline W=5.10 pl=1.80
5 Electro Magnetic 58 10 56.5 Evans, Michael Cerchi, W P Unpl
3 Cadet Roussel 45 07 56.5 Missen, Dale O'sullivan, T Unpl
7//
3 Prymslea Princess 63 05 57.0 Evans, Michael O'rourke, F J Unpl
8 Fusing 61 14 54.5 Nolan, W Clingan, E SCR
2 Mad Dugal 52 12 57.5 Robertson, John Rogers, J A pl=5.10
7 Dual Purpose 52 07 54.5 Yendall, Dean Marshman, Ms B Unpl
8//
11 Rubivale 97 12 56.5 Davis, Wayne Brideoake, D R Unpl
13 Stardust Gem 59 01 56.5 Holland, Damien Lewis, M W SCR
7 Liberal Miss 51 05 56.5 Mehmet, N Laidlaw, R J W=6.00 pl=1.70

Selection = 25
SCR = 2
Invest W/P =$46
Return =$46.40
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Canberra 4 July
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2//
11 Prolong 67 06 55.5 Wiggins, Ryan Petrovic, M Unpl
8 Weekend Wonder 65 05 57.5 Sweeney, Kevin Kirkup, W=4.20 pl=1.40
6 Monaghan 64 10 57.5 Ford, Jay Kay, J A Unpl
3//
1 Kiss My Fuji 63 07 59.0 Cahill, Matthew Boljun, R Unpl
2 Prettify 44 10 57.0 Bloomfield, Andrew Murray, Unpl
4//
4 Neat Work 55 10 57.5 Hanneybel, Mark Libby Snowden Unpl
2 Garrett 54 07 57.5 Whitney, Jamie Joseph, Ms B M Unpl
9 Lochtaine 53 09 55.5 Buckley, Grant Morrisey, J P pl=2.30
1 Clever Shot 51 06 57.5 Cahill, Matthew Callaughan, W=6.20 pl=2.40
11 Lady Briony 48 11 54.0 Bensley, Richard Boljun, R Unpl
5//
1 Mr Tac 92 08 57.5 Wells, Peter Jimmy Turner SCR
4 I'm A Leader 77 05 57.0 Beriman, Ms N Joseph, W=2.10 pl=1.30
2 Beaudance 59 06 57.0 Penza, Jeff Doolan, L pl=1.60
6//
1 Serkelt 89 01 56.5 Silburn, Ray Dryden, K R pl=1.50
6 Radiant Image 59 02 54.0 Pollard, Scott Rae, Ms M SCR
2 Irish Jester 57 09 55.5 Penza, Jeff Templeton, M Unpl
7//
2 Amber Liquid 79 06 57.0 Bensley, Richard Pl=2.80
9 Machado 54 03 54.0 Price, R J SCR
5 Brooke's Looks 53 04 56.0 Ford, Jay Darren Pl=1.50
8 Kawaree 52 08 54.0 Buckley, Grant Unpl
3 Nitrogen Narcosis 49 12 57.0 Price, R J SCR

Selection = 21
SCR = 4
Invest W/P =$34
Return =$27.30
================================================== ==
Hobart 4 July
============
1//
4 Jumburran Bay 96 09 58.0 Parish, Ms D Jones, E P W=4.90 pl=1.50
2 Danarli 59 04 58.0 Mc Coull, B Brunton, D L Unpl
8 Prima Cavallo 59 01 55.5 Maskiell, S Goggin, C N pl=1.90
10 The Byng Bunyip 52 08 55.5 Brazil, Ms Shannon Stubbs, pl=2.20
2//
2 Chief Citation 68 03 58.0 Gates, S R White, G S SCR
7 Dear Friend 68 10 55.5 Maskiell, S Goggin, C N Unpl
6 Blackberry Pie 67 08 55.5 Pires, D **********, Ms C pl=2.00
4 Our Boy George 59 11 58.0 Michaelides, P Dixon, K H Unpl
1 Arrow Man 57 06 58.0 Kingston, Corey W=3.90 pl=1.70
11 Perfect Vista 54 09 55.5 Mc Coull, B Richardson, N Unpl
3//
5 Irish Joker 84 06 55.0 Parish, Ms D Carr, R T Unpl
2 Native Plume 77 05 56.5 Michaelides, P Bovell, Unpl
4//
1 Pharaoh's Daughter 136 02 57.0 Ball, M Goggin, C N pl=1.70
8 Strathmore Maid 76 08 53.0 Gates, S R Green, W J Unpl

Selection = 14
SCR = 1
Invest W/P = $26
Return = $19.80
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Bowraville 4 July
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2//
9 Solray 78 06 55.5 Graham, Peter Woodward, G L pl=1.00
11 Bonny Tiara 66 04 55.5 Murphy, Patrick Stapleford, A SCR
12 Aerotic 55 07 55.5 Lantry, K J SCR
3//
2 It's Volcanic 71 05 54.5 Traecey, Stephen Bellamy, B D Unpl
9 Amba's Splash 70 08 54.0 Thurlow, Scott Woodward, G L Unpl
6 Joytous 69 02 54.0 Thomas, Nathan Chapman, Ms C Unpl
1 Dane Fantasy 68 04 56.5 Treichel, Terry Ball, H P pl=1.30
4//
6 Queen's Angels 93 05 54.0 Dolendo, Marlon Godbolt, R N Unpl
3 Rebaceda 63 01 54.5 Parramore, Andrew Richardson, pl=2.50
5//
1 Hipwell 113 07 59.0 Dolendo, Marlon Godbolt, R N Unpl
6//
5 Noble Kaaptive 68 10 54.0 Treichel, Terry Walshe, T D Unpl
1 Leg Irons 64 07 57.0 Thomas, Nathan W=3.70 pl=1.60
2 Classic Frontier 60 01 56.5 Coleman, Darron Bowen, Pl=1.70
4 Netazi 57 06 54.5 Watkins, J Bowen, D P Unpl
7//
3 Moonbeam Molly 78 03 55.5 Franklin, Craig Bellamy, B D pl=1.80
5 Hands Free 64 02 54.0 Traecey, Stephen Stitt, M R Unpl
11 Flag 56 01 54.0 Compton, B S Graham, B SCR

Selection = 17
SCR = 3
Invest W/P =$28
Return =$13.60
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SUM:
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Selections= 143
SCR = 18
Invest W/P=$250
Return =$235.60
LOT =5.76%
Comment:
NEURALS are not bad but as you see you can win and loose.
In my opinion it's a very good tool.
Systems based on past performance never win.
NOTE:
Today most of certain Favorites Lost as usual.

Happy punting.

wjp.


[ This Message was edited by: wjp on 2004-07-05 00:17 ]

What do you mean by 'daily selections' Crash?

A lot of food for thought there wjp! Thanks.

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