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Old 28th May 2009, 05:21 PM
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Default OK, for those who like systems

I don't remember where I got this one from but it apparently works. I don't follow it because betting on systems to me is like watching paint dry. I'd rather lose handicapping [I do OK nowadays] that play a system.

"It is a place system for backing clear favorites for a place
I have twigged and adjusted the rules over time but they have always been based on favorites $2 clear in the win market.
TAB of course on which race is held
I look for clear favs and place odds value
I find it works better on Saturdays than other days
and marginally better on metrop to other.
Having said that, analysis shows that Saturday gold coast has both the best strike rate and best av div and of course best return.

Look at local TAB win odds 3 min before jump

If fav less than $2 short of next in win betting ignore race

If fav => $2 shorter than next in betting and paying at least $1.60 for place it is a bet.
$3 $1.40
$2 and 100 pointer TAB on line or latemail and paying at least $1.40
$2 and both 100 and late mail $1.20


this will give you about 75% strike rate at av div around $1.40 say POT around 5%

but I go all up until I have three times start bet
so if start bet is 4 units all up until 12 units+ then stop usually 2 3 or 4 legs depending on divs.

First bet is 2 units then when you lose increase opening bet for next sequence by 1 unit.
When successful reduce commencing bet for next sequence by 3 units to minimum of 2 units.
Suggest bank of 100 units has less than 1% chance of going broke.

Strike rate of selections is around 75%
Strike rate of sequences is around 40% at av return of around 2.8 of commencing bet for a POT around 12%
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Old 29th May 2009, 01:13 AM
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ahh! I knew you were hiding something there Crashy boy!!! hahhhah! now you knew I was going to reply to THAT one didn't ya?


Mind you, very interesting! though "local tote" ooohhh!
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Old 29th May 2009, 07:56 AM
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I thought you might bite on that one Party!
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Old 29th May 2009, 09:52 AM
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I got one!!!

But you need an iron constitution and as a young man I had a wooden chess set box stuffed full of money from it (about 3 and a half grand),which the missus discovered and wasted it on stuff like school shoes and books for the kids, and food and stuff.

Here it goes. This is a variation on a simple paper poll selection that has been posted here:

Saturday metro class: Find the best 5 newspaper tipsters and put them together. Highlight each of their best bets. Pick the best bet selections that are not contradicted by the other 4. It doesn't matter if only one picks that horse, or if they they all do. That is your selections for the day.

Back them until you win a set amount. I used to go down and bet to win 250. It was boring and also stressful. I once bet about nearly 500 to win 250 at Moonee Valley on that system.

I lost big when Schillachi, Mahogany, and Naturalism all lost on the same Cox Plate day.

I won over all, but like I said you need an iron constitution, and it is soooo very boring.
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Old 29th May 2009, 03:15 PM
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Here's one a mate of mine used to use in a consortium.

They used to travel all over Victoria to the dog tracks, but there's too many problems and the prices are ridiculous.

He used to back the favourite at the dogs until a winner.

He made money for quite a time martingaling his bets, as almost every dog meet had a favourite win.

I once went with him and he was up to race seven and the favourite was $1.50 and went up with the lids.

I've never seen someone turn purple before.

It's doomed because of the prices, so we nutted out favourite but must be evens or better.

It wasn't for me, huge stakes to win a tiny percentage.

He was full of bravado when the favourite got up in the first or second races and he had a nice dinner and bottle of wine, but the look on his face that day, put me off it forever.

Today, he sells life insurance.
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Old 29th May 2009, 06:44 PM
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A similar one

Article in Magazine a few years ago quoted two retired dog bookmakers who decided that with only 8 runners per race the winning box number would be duplicated at a meeting.
So after the first race they backed all winning boxes until one won again.
They were good at calculating a book and in those days you had competition to some extent between dog bookies.

Ah the good old days
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