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Old 19th November 2011, 05:28 PM
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Where do you find the default setting Don Scott ratings?

I can see the best recent rating,the best rating of the last 12 month and the assesed price, is there something else or is the default the best recent rating?
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Old 19th November 2011, 09:00 PM
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FR column is the final Don Scott Rating. If you don't change any of the figures then this is the default rating.
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Old 20th November 2011, 01:08 PM
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FR column is the final Don Scott Rating. If you don't change any of the figures then this is the default rating.


Thanks Useless bettor.

Only stands to reason those results can be improved. Was wondering what the expected return on the highest Final Ratings would be if one just bet on the TAB.

I expect perhaps a 10% loss?
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Old 20th November 2011, 03:39 PM
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Thanks Useless bettor.

Only stands to reason those results can be improved. Was wondering what the expected return on the highest Final Ratings would be if one just bet on the TAB.

I expect perhaps a 10% loss?
I can only give you the betfair return after 5% commission. It is :

There were 34655 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.
There were 3261 selections for the System
There were 777 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.83%
There were $3178.27 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-82.73 or a percentage profit/loss of -2.54%
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The Rules used were : donScottRank = 1



They can be improved fairly easy. Try those with the highest win strike rate:

There were 1379 selections for the System
There were 426 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 30.89%
There were $1425.9 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $46.9 or a percentage profit/loss of 3.4%
Test Another System
The Rules used were : donScottRank = 1 and winSrRank = 1


Or just bet on the value bets usign a wide barrier filter:

There were 1341 selections for the System
There were 319 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.79%
There were $1427.52 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $86.52 or a percentage profit/loss of 6.45%
Test Another System
The Rules used were : barrier >= 7 and donScottRank = 1

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Old 20th November 2011, 06:46 PM
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Away from the final rating an angle that crossed my mind is the highest total rating if you add the best 12 month rating to the best recent rating.
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Old 20th November 2011, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
I can only give you the betfair return after 5% commission. It is :

There were 34655 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.
There were 3261 selections for the System
There were 777 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.83%
There were $3178.27 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-82.73 or a percentage profit/loss of -2.54%
Test Another System
The Rules used were : donScottRank = 1



They can be improved fairly easy. Try those with the highest win strike rate:

There were 1379 selections for the System
There were 426 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 30.89%
There were $1425.9 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $46.9 or a percentage profit/loss of 3.4%
Test Another System
The Rules used were : donScottRank = 1 and winSrRank = 1


Or just bet on the value bets usign a wide barrier filter:

There were 1341 selections for the System
There were 319 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.79%
There were $1427.52 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $86.52 or a percentage profit/loss of 6.45%
Test Another System
The Rules used were : barrier >= 7 and donScottRank = 1
Try this on the second rated, I have no definite results but by looking at them daily it seems to be better than the top rated specially for the place?
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Old 21st November 2011, 05:58 PM
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Try this one guys. All the 1's

Don Scott number 1
Last start finished 1
Career starts 11 or more
Runners 11 or more


There were 165 selections for the System
There were 37 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.42%
There were $211.76 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $46.76 or a percentage profit/loss of 28.34%

The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11
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Old 22nd November 2011, 07:32 PM
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Well done Dale.
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Old 6th December 2011, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale
Try this one guys. All the 1's

Don Scott number 1
Last start finished 1
Career starts 11 or more
Runners 11 or more


There were 165 selections for the System
There were 37 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.42%
There were $211.76 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $46.76 or a percentage profit/loss of 28.34%

The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11


mmmm ....not sure sure of those results.
i tested on some other data - going back to February 2011 and using tattsbet dividends and got :

starters 1089
winners187
win loss 200
% win loss -18%
on 3-11-2011 i got these selections:
EAGLE FARM Mr Favulous 0/4.7
EAGLE FARM Carry Me Bluey 0/1.2
KEMBLA Etype 0/0
ELLERSLIE Undisclosed 0/0

has anyone else tested ?
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Old 6th December 2011, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
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mmmm ....not sure sure of those results.
i tested on some other data - going back to February 2011 and using tattsbet dividends and got :

starters 1089
winners187
win loss 200
% win loss -18%
on 3-11-2011 i got these selections:
EAGLE FARM Mr Favulous 0/4.7
EAGLE FARM Carry Me Bluey 0/1.2
KEMBLA Etype 0/0
ELLERSLIE Undisclosed 0/0

has anyone else tested ?


Hi Aussielongboat,

Your results could be accurate, as Uselessbettor's records started from August. Perhaps the 1's have had a purple patch since then?

I haven't tested the selections myself.

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