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Old 30th July 2012, 06:01 PM
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Great post Puntz.

That should get LG and Moeee of my case for awhile. lol.

Now, I have to go back and follow those links, do some research, so I can reply with some intelligence.

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Old 30th July 2012, 06:09 PM
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I had heard of Pittsburg Phil. I thought he was in the imagination of that Monthly Punting magazine.

Looks like he got it right. No computers eh! I wonder if that is my problem too.
Rubbish in, Rubbish out. KISS. Pareto.

I see a trend here.

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Old 30th July 2012, 06:13 PM
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One of Pittsburgh Phil's maxims that I found very true over years of going to the races was:-

"A man cannot divide his attention at the track between horses and women".
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Old 30th July 2012, 06:17 PM
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Its funny how many punters use the term systems or rules when developing a selection process in horse racing and not in other sports.

Imagine the punter in the AFL or NRL going through and rating each player based on past performance at that ground against that club based on the ground conditions and the day of the week.

I think in theory a system is good to fed out the non-qualifers and then you can use your head to back a winner or multple of winners.

I have more success today with ratings not just backing on the nose but a mixture of betting types.

On the weekend I was more than happy to watch the cash come for Green Birdie. Even tho Ready to Rip prior win the form didn't hold up you can tell from a system based selection that it was going to improve.

For the London Games I backed every event were there were more than 20 qualifers and the outright win was between $1.10 and $1.40. Ended up with 13 qualifers.

Sorry I'm off the topic a little.
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Old 30th July 2012, 06:28 PM
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Racing maxims and methods of "Pittsburg Phil"


Is this him?



Sorry that's Punxsutawney Phil
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Old 30th July 2012, 06:32 PM
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Another of Pittsburgh Phil's Maxims that rings very true was:-

"Many killings are attempted but few are accomplished".
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Old 30th July 2012, 09:31 PM
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Old 30th July 2012, 10:29 PM
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Holy crap i just used a program to try and download the whole article but think i downloaded the website,just filled my hard drive.
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Old 30th July 2012, 11:20 PM
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Good read so far, Have to come back to it to finish. Hats of to "Phil" He is a far better man than me. One point comes over loud and clear:- The history ,the handicapping, the ratings are only part of the equation. They are the start of the exercise but the new knowledge :- the conditions of the track today and the condition of the individual horses today are the most important part of the equation. "Phil" had men on the ground feeding him this info, similarly the HK syndicates have men on the ground, and no doubt the majority of successful punters have to access this new knowledge to be successful. The handicappers job is to make all runners able to win. The trainers job is to make his horse most able to win. The jockeys job is to push and guide the horse to win. The bookies job is to make the punter pay. It is our job to sort the wheat from the chaff. Clearly we have to access more new knowledge. Beton
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Old 31st July 2012, 12:31 AM
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Good read so far, Have to come back to it to finish. Hats of to "Phil" He is a far better man than me. One point comes over loud and clear:- The history ,the handicapping, the ratings are only part of the equation. They are the start of the exercise but the new knowledge :- the conditions of the track today and the condition of the individual horses today are the most important part of the equation.

"Phil" had men on the ground feeding him this info, Clearly we have to access more new knowledge. Beton

This has developed into something I never expected. When I said I had my system picks and then tried to use my own intelligence as a saver, I found a trend where my selections were generally more successful.

Maybe somewhere in between is where I should be looking. Using artificial intelligence ( the computer and combining that with natural intelligence ) the background and research.

Not trying to narrow it down to a single unit, but maybe as Beton has said, Getting rid of the chaff, might be a better policy.


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