Good example but it may come back to haunt us saying that,
And me agreeing with it T.T.A. (L.OL.)

Cheers.

Hi Barny,

This is more like it old chum!

I love this concept that you've brought to the table.

I'll add my two cents later today with some magnanimous, statistical, majistical and ballistical stable ideas.

NICE WORK BARNY!!

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

Knowing the fitness levels of each horse and even watching it's progress as it matures has got to be an advantage.

I've noticed that the penny has dropped for 'clocker Thompson' of late. His tips used to be filed under 'thanks but no thanks' and now with a lot more experience, I actually pay attention when he says something is working really well. All those early mornings with the stopwatch are starting to pay off?....

I'd love to be out there every morning with a Long Mac, stopwatch and notebook but unfortunately it is not to be at this stage of my life. Maybe one day........

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

From my analysis which includes the Romans racing chariots, I would keep backing the horses provided they haven't hit GR2 or higher as yet ..... that's generalising of course.

Presented with your usual humility of course TheSchmile

I have a background in marketing Barny, so I excel in the realm of OVER THE TOP!!!

Perhaps I should change my initials from TS to B-S......ha ha

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

Yep agree, where the horse races at, in, next start,
Is a major player in the decision.

Did i just agree with "BARNY" !@#$%^&*.(L.O.L.)

CHEERS.

garyf, we're all allowed the odd moment of insanity, no one will hold that against you, they're and understanding mob on here. As you were .....

Listed below are the top 11 horses as rated by Timeform in their 2012-2013 2yo season. Their individual Timeform ratings are listed next to their names.

Under their names I've also listed:
Winning distances // Best rated run // Predicted best distance moving forwardinto their 3yo seasons

Overreach 121p
1100-1200 // 1200 Golden Slipper G1 // 1100-1200

Guelph 119
1000-1600 // 1600 Champagne G1 // 1400-1600

Sidestep 118
1200 // 1200 2nd Golden Slipper G1 // 1200-1600? Dam won 3yo G2 at 1600

Miracles Of Life 118
1000-1200 // 1200 Blue Diamond G1 // 1000-1200

Scandiva 117?
1100-1200 // 1400 2nd to Guelph G1 Sires Produce // 1200-1400

Criterion 115
1100-1200 // 1200 Todman G2 // 1100-1200

Equator 115
1250 // 1600 3rd Champagne G1 // 1200-1600

Fast 'n' Rocking 115
No wins // 5th Golden Slipper G1 // 1200-1400 Maybe longer?

Fuerza 115
No wins // 2nd Champagne G1

Romantic Touch 115p
1400-1600 // JJ Atkins G1 // 1400+?

Drago 114
1800 // 4th Champagne G1 // 1800m+ Derby prospect?

Note: I've assessed the last few years of the Victoria Derby winners and they were all given reasonably easy times as 2yo's avoiding the high pressure races such as the Slipper and Blue Diamond. Drago was probably the best of the list above from a staying point of view.

Here's a list below to help out. You can cut and paste their name's into the formguide at: www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide

Year	Winner	Jockey	Trainer	Owner	Time
2012	Fiveandahalfstar [1]	Damien Oliver	Anthony Cummings	Thoroughbreds Pty Ltd	2:35.92
2011	Sangster [2]	Hugh Bowman	Trent Busuttin	K D Greenlees et al.	2:40.33
2010	Lion Tamer [3]	Hugh Bowman	Murray & Bjorn Baker	P H P Bayly	2:46.43
2009	Monaco Consul [4]	Corey Brown	Michael Moroney	G G Syndicate Ltd (Mgr: G Peterson) & O G Glenn	2:41.68
2008	Rebel Raider [5]	Clare Lindop	Leon Macdonald	B H Perks, T J Robertson, R B Fairclough, Dr P C Goel et al.	2:36.90
2007	Kibbutz [6]	Craig Williams	David Hayes	Terry Henderson syndicate et al.	2:40.92
2006	Efficient	Michael Rodd	Graeme Rogerson	Lloyd J. Williams et al.	2:38.35
2005	Benicio	Noel Callow	Lee Freedman	Freedman brothers et al.	2:37.08
2004	Plastered	Paul Harvey	Lindsay Smith	Jenella Harvey et al.	2:35.49
2003	Elvstroem	Damien Oliver	Tony Vasil	Elvstroem Syndicate	2:38.99
2002	Helenus	Steven King	Leon Corstens	Joseph & Thecla Xipell	2:40.54
2001	Amalfi	Damien Oliver	Peter Moody	Ron & Judy Wanless	2:34.63
2000	Hit The Roof	Glen Boss	David Hall	Bob Scarborough	2:39.02

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"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

You have to admire people like that CP, that is some serious dedication right there