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Old 1st March 2012, 02:34 PM
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norisk, a big result as I liked the winner, plus the % was good.

I'll list as numbers only.
1.....$1682 @ 3.58
2.....$246 @ 24
3.....$90 @ 66
4.....$212 @ 28
5.....$225 @ 26
6.....$1863 @ 3.21
7.....$163 @ 36
8.....$34 @ 177
9.....$226 @ 26
10....$158 @ 38
11....$393 @ 15
13....$203 @ 29
14....$94 @ 64
15....$62 @ 97
16....$96 @ 62
17....$317 @ 19
18....$64 @ 92

Hold $6128
4 wins pay out $5936
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Old 1st March 2012, 02:35 PM
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Top stuff Mark.
Hope this doesn't wreck the prices for you, as I see by the amount of views that there is quite a lot of interest in your method.
Cheers.


As I said, very few will actually give it a go, and competition is good.
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Old 1st March 2012, 02:38 PM
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Fair enough, but thanks again for sharing anyhow.
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Old 1st March 2012, 02:56 PM
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Hi Mark,


Very insightful, loving it.
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Old 1st March 2012, 02:56 PM
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Every race is different, every day is different, which makes what I do very hard to mechanise. I approach every race differently to the previous race.
An average is hard to gauge but if pressed I would say I average 5-6 US (6-7 days per week) 6-10 AUS races (4-5 days per week) Saturday is usually 20+, and 6-8 UK races (6-7 days per week).

Hi Mark,

Completely agree!!

Each race is its own unique puzzle, that's why I love doing the form so much. When you can isolate a good thing at a decent price that the market has totally ignored there's no better feeling for mine.

Yesterday I had the most bizarre/awesome day 16 bets for 5 winners:

I started with 6 losers in a row, followed by 4 winners in a row, at $3, $9, $6 and $36 (magnetosphere). A 4 leg all-up would have netted $5831/1. WOWSERS. I only backed them straight out however I was extremely happy at the end of the day!!

So forgive me if my post was a little strange last night, I was celebrating long into the night. I still haven't quite come down....

I admit I do love the thrill of a win, as well as a little financial kick so at present I stick to backing winners.

I'd wish you best of luck with your methods Mark, however it appears you have this game well and truly SUSSED!!

Today I only have 5 bets. 2 have run and 1 has saluted at over $4. So I'll lose a little or break even at worst.

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Old 1st March 2012, 02:58 PM
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Yes thanks Mark. Appreciated.

Whenever people speak of spoiling dividends I always think of Crash (of happy memory) who used to say that you could chalk a winning system on the footpath outside Randwick on a Saturday, and it would make no difference to the outcome in money terms --- probably right too!!

Thanks sincerely.
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Old 1st March 2012, 03:09 PM
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Interesting stuff Mark.

I'd like to play Devil's Advocate if you don't mind.
I'd also like to preface it with the statement that I know what you do works and has done for many years.

a) isn't this similar to laying to liability rather than payout because of the staking?
b) I notice that the staking is only a sideline, the actual knack is getting the market percentage to 102.68% in the Oakleigh Plate example.
This is not an easy task for most people, because the odds are always floating.
c) Have you noticed the chances of getting good market percentages shrinking over the last 6 months?
d) What do you do with odds on favourites, do you lay them all, lay them selectively or ignore them completely?

As you know I have been laying the field for a few years, and the penalty is the rollercoaster when using Betfair SP liability.
I think I have solved that portion of it.
I'll expand on this later, but this is your spotlight

Well done.
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Old 1st March 2012, 03:12 PM
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Yes thanks Mark. Appreciated.

Whenever people speak of spoiling dividends I always think of Crash (of happy memory) who used to say that you could chalk a winning system on the footpath outside Randwick on a Saturday, and it would make no difference to the outcome in money terms --- probably right too!!

Thanks sincerely.


I would say this is spot on, except in the circumstance where it can be automated. In Mark's case it cannot, but be vewy vewy carefuw, Elmer Fudd is hunting systems.
I have seen this happen.
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Old 1st March 2012, 03:16 PM
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Yes, thanks Mark.

Doesn't laying races with small liquidity i.e. USA create problems? If you are going to lay the field how can you guarantee that you will obtain the desired prices, especially as the prices are continually changing? And how can you be sure every horse will be layed before they jump? Do you hit the Place Bets button once or several times (if trying to get the best Lay price)?

Mark, I've always been intrigued how you can get an "all green" field, especially on sporting/special events where the start-time is days in the future.

I presume you do not touch S.P. laying because there can be no trading except somehow combining it with the Exchange?

Thanks again for your input.

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Old 1st March 2012, 03:49 PM
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Yes thanks Mark. Appreciated.

Whenever people speak of spoiling dividends I always think of Crash (of happy memory) who used to say that you could chalk a winning system on the footpath outside Randwick on a Saturday, and it would make no difference to the outcome in money terms --- probably right too!!

Thanks sincerely.
Merriguy
I'm not sure now and have no time to hunt for the exact quote but I think he referred to the behavior of an average punter and in that he was absolutely right.
Nothing will shake the beliefs and change the habits of an average punter.

Thank God for that!

On the other hand if you have a good idea keep it to yourself.
Sorry to say, revealing it to all and sundry WILL change odds. May not matter much on a metro race but it certainly matters weekdays.
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