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Old 30th August 2017, 01:54 AM
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Default Banned From Bookmakers?

For a while now, I have had my suspicions regarding bookmakers spying or installing spyware on computers to counteract matched betting.
It all came to a head last night for me, when I closed Microsoft Edge completely (and my settings are set at clear all history on closing).
Mysteriously I was working on my computer and decided to do a clean up.
I got an error message that Microsoft Edge was open AND could not be closed.
It was not open!
I went through running processes and Edge was not running either, so I rebooted and did a whole lot of scans and clean-ups and got rid of the Edge error. I had Betfair and a leading bookmaker open before I closed Edge.

Am I paranoid?
Why are so many accounts getting limited, even when losing money?

Well I found a site that confirms my suspicions....
"A recent report released by an industry specialist suggested that due to the massive growth of Matched Betting and free bonus abuse is costing the industry in the region of £20m a month.

Bookmakers are now clamping down and monitoring account activity. All bookmakers have a risk-management team, people who are specifically employed to distinguish between ‘clever’ and ‘mug’ punters.

They are using advanced tracking technologies and spyware so they can monitor every click of your mouse, all the websites you visit, all your computers installation data, complete information from your registry plus full browser and operating system information.

You don’t even know when this code has been added and is running BUT rest assured they are monitoring everyone.

Bookmakers can tell if you are using a Matched Betting site, they know when you place your bets and the Exchange used to lay-off.


They decide if you are costing them too much money and if they want your business.

The worst case is that you will have your accounts shut down, immediately losing all your money. In many cases bookmakers restrict people’s accounts by limiting the amount they can bet. They also stop the special offers a Matched Bettor relies upon to make a profit."

So take it for what it's worth, I truly believe from mine and others experiences, that this is going on.
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Old 30th August 2017, 05:10 AM
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Interesting read CP.

So is there a work around to protect yourself to this such as using different browsers?
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Old 30th August 2017, 07:57 AM
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We all know if you bet with a bookmaker you are generally falling into a category of a losing punter.

The only choice is to either bet on races where there is min bet laws (NSW) and/or use betfair or the Tote(only with rebates).
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Old 30th August 2017, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
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We all know if you bet with a bookmaker you are generally falling into a category of a losing punter.



Or making an easy side income with the bonus bets (until they ban you anyway)
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Old 30th August 2017, 10:53 AM
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I highly doubt they use spyware or any form of hidden tracking software on people's computers because if they got caught there would be all kinds of hell brought down on them in terms of privacy laws etc - there's just no way they would risk it just to infiltrate some of their customers computers.

However they definitely do monitor betting patterns of accounts for matched bettors or people making a profit on certain markets etc and limiting them. They will also take bonus's away if they can see that the only bet types you do with them are to take advantage of bonus or special promo's. I've also heard of them lowering odds for people (i.e. when not logged in their site shows $1.90 odds but once you log in it becomes $1.80). There are a number of crude tricks bookmakers use to make a dollar - everyone should be aware of it and do their best to avoid it.

At the end of the day its best to either use betfair or try to stay away from their radar by mixing what you know are your long term profitable bets with sports bets and also spreading these bets across multiple bookies. And when I said multiple bookies make sure they are not owned by the same head company as if they are, they likely share your information/bets within the parent company.
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Old 30th August 2017, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
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We all know if you bet with a bookmaker you are generally falling into a category of a losing punter.

The only choice is to either bet on races where there is min bet laws (NSW) and/or use betfair or the Tote(only with rebates).


That's a very big "generally".
Minimum bet laws are useless as well. The bookies have ways around them and the high flying lawyers to back them.
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Old 30th August 2017, 06:29 PM
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Or making an easy side income with the bonus bets (until they ban you anyway)


I meant long term. But yes you are correct.
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Old 30th August 2017, 10:01 PM
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I've never posted before but have been a member for some time. If you google IE Snare you will find out how to stop their spy software working. It is most likely they have software on your computer reporting your activities.
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Old 31st August 2017, 12:26 AM
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You can Google Jolly Lock IP, it has been reviewed by three independent Matched Betting sites. As to hidden spyware and tracking, it has been proven beyond doubt, if you are a member of some Matched Betting forums.
Different browsers won't work around it.

I use CCleaner, Spybot, Super Antispyware, Windows Defender and Advanced System Care. If only you could see what it has picked up after a thorough clean and opening two bookmakers sites at once or a bookmaker and Betfair.
I can't mention it, but one bookmaker in particular has admitted to the technology because they lost so much money to bonus offers.
It's no good placing losing bets with them, they still ban you if they detect other betting mediums.
So many posts about "they banned or limited me, but I was losing with them???"
It is not illegal to place tracking software or even spyware on a clients computer. Just log into Ebay for example, and then log out. Go to Gumtree or any page that has ads on it, and what do you see, all offers from Ebay!
If in doubt, read the privacy policy and terms and conditions of any large betting agency.
Cookies are no longer cookies, they are a whole pack of Family Assorted!
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Old 31st August 2017, 01:56 AM
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