Chrome, do I take to mean that 45 days is considered 1st up?

Hi Partypooper,

I sent you an email regarding your spreadsheet.

Yes, 45 days is usually denoted in the formguides as a spell, although this is not strict and you can modify it to suit yourself.

I looked at horses example 112x and found this formline to be over rated, depending of course on the opposition.

The ratings tend to decipher this kind of thing anyway

Track condition or barrier did not make any noticeable difference to the outcome.

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Nice shovel, I mean 'system' Chrome !

Chrome Prince

Could you work through an example, as I can't see where you got your second column of points from.

Thanks

Salty

Hi Salty,

Let's say we have used the rules to "modify" some set of ratings, be they Unitab or Techform or something else.

After applying the rules, there are amended or revised ratings.

101
99
97
96
95
94
93

What you do is now add up the DIFFERENCE in rating points between the bottom rated and the next highest. BUT you can only have a minimum of 1 point, so 0 = 1 point still.

Looking at the above scenario, start from the bottom and work up...

93 - 93 = 0, so 1 point (minimum)
94 - 93 = 1 point
95 - 93 = 2 points
96 - 93 = 3 points
etc etc
right up to the top rated

101 - 93 = 8 points.

So in this case the top rated horse is 8 points above the bottom rated.

Convert this to a percentage by dividing the points for each horse by the field total points.

convert this pecentage to a price by dividing 100 by the percentage.

We then have a field rated to 100% market.

This gives the hypothetically true odds and you work from there.

You can of course back the highest rated runners, providing they are over 100 after applying the rules.

Hope this helps.

This is actually just a quick way to get some prices, based on sound system rules. You are still getting ratings of a sort and if you look at how the selections perform AFTER applying the rules as opposed to using the initial ratings raw, you'll be pretty amazed

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In regards to what is printed on the forum belongs to the forum, if you don't want it public then don't print it because what is visiable to others can and will be used by others, as evidence of some mags out there that have used our very ideas to profit from.

I have my self copied a few system from these forum pages not to be printed but definetly to be profited from.

Shaun,

There is a distinct difference between a punter profiting from information derived from postings on the forum and unscrupulous "others" that sell it as their own ideas for profit.

The issue is claiming something publicly as your own work when it is not, plagerism, and selling something for profit when it was provided for free and with good intention.

I personally have no problem with any individual taking information for personal use - that's what the forum is partly here for.

As you say though, I have certainly cut back severely on sharing anything publicly due to the vulcher element.

Whatever I share here now, is simply general or fun stuff, not serious discoveries, of which I have made a few.

For example: The trainers methods post which I made and was plagerised almost word for word a month later, continues to do well, but, since that time, I've made a much better discovery in relation to the method and now cannot post it for fear of the "vulchers".

It's just not right in my opinion, and rubs me up the wrong way - it's downright deceitful!

It's a shame, because it shouldn't have to be this way.

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Stating the obvious I know, but I think everyone here keeps the "Gems" to themselves, just in case it is the "goose". But still there is a lot of food for thought, which can be developed into something useful. I have definitly benefitted by things that I read on the forum, maybe not in their raw form but when I put my own tilt to them. Hopefully I have also made a few people think in a different way, eg. many people STILL do not look for the best possible return, even something as simple as opening an account where you can bet at best of 3 totes can make an incredible difference overall. I know of one very astute backer who bets for the place where he gets AVERAGE of 3 totes (for the place that is) when he could be investing half at best of Supertab and NSW and the other half at Unitab, this GUARATEES about 5% increase in returns, but he doesn't do it, don't ask me why?

Thats an excellent idea of yours Chrome Prince...excellent.
Thanks for shareing that.

One way of making the exercise a little easier
is to write down say the six contenders .
Deduct one point off the lowest rated.
e.g.
83---100---17
83---84---1
83---96---13
83---89---6
83---94---11
83---98---15

Go to Ozracetools site & open up the Rating to Price section .
Place the resultying figures into the allocated space & Bingo! (17,1,13,6,11,15) your in action.

The prices are now all worked out for you...laughing like a god-dam Hyina .

One could now target a race where there is value & a chance of the Fav falling over for us ,then Dutch bet all six to take out say $100 by dividing the resulting price above into $100 (or any other amount) & if one of the six gets up you will ususally be in profit or a small loss.

I would recommend making the shortest price $4.00 even if its showing less than this , if one is going to run with this exercise so as to keep the outlay down.

One could place all bets before prices are put up & hope for the best outcome.

Cheers.

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