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Old 3rd June 2011, 02:42 PM
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Default Bagwan's 1st 6 races

=> Bagwan. I remember you mentioning in a thread a month or 2 ago about the 3rd fav coming good more often in the 1st 6 races of the day than the rest of the day. I put that fact away for a while and this week I tracked the 1st 6 races each day and came up with some good results.

I checked the 1st 6 favs 1 min before jump for each race and stopped for the day when it won. If it won the 1st race, I kept going until it ran again.

Was there any other filters you suggest applying? Thursday was the only day it did not succeed.

If anyone else has any ideas, they are welcome to drop in as well. And if you would prefer to email me then you can on max stuff 09 @ g mail . com
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Old 3rd June 2011, 07:34 PM
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Bhagwan could you email me at mat at sportofkings dot com dot au as I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.


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Old 4th June 2011, 09:50 AM
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Hi max, Bhagwan let that system out on one of my threads (geez it was hard to find - there's so much good stuff on here). Here it is:

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Have Bot target the 3rd Fav. only for each Horse race.
(No Trot races)

2 secs till jump

1-24 runners.

Target first 6 races of the day only.

Set Bot to stop on 1 win
Set Bot to stop on 6 losers.

What you may find, is the number of times a 3rd Fav gets up in the first 6 bets of the day.
It strikes some surprisingly good prices.

Betting level stakes.
1% of Bank.
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Old 4th June 2011, 10:17 PM
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Thats right Ocho.

If the first race won , its best to stop for the day & not continue for a possible 2nd win, because it will usually be the only one getting up in the first 6 races.

It has still been performing with almost identical percentage SR as it did when Ocho was testing it.

Ocho would set his Bot to 4-23 runners.

If you want to use a Bot, here is a free one to try.
Google
BetSoftPro.
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Old 5th June 2011, 12:01 PM
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Thanks Bags. Worked again on Saturday in the 1st race. I kept it going again like I do if the 1st wins and it won again in the 6th. Nice return for the day. If only I had actually put money where my mouth is! So that's 5 returning days out of 6 this week.

With a bot, what would be the best account to hold as I still do not have a betting account yet as everything I have done so far has been on paper?

Have you Bagwan or anyone else found any filters to apply to the 1st 6 races to increase S/R?
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Old 5th June 2011, 08:21 PM
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The more consistent systems have very few rules.

The more rules that are added , the less likely it will repeat itself down the line.

We try to keep it short & sweet.

You could introduce more filters , but I believe it wont make it any more profitable, it would be more than likely to be less profitable, if extra filters were added.

If you looked at the form of some of those 3rd Favs , you would swear that they had no hope of winning , but win they do.

You will see them beat very short odds-on shots, on a regular basis.
When this happens , their price is usually around the $10.00-11.00 mark, with rotten looking form.

Try finding a level stakes system out there that delivers 50% POT.

I guarantee , that you will be struggling to find one.

If one wishes to increase profits on the original idea of 1% flat stakes ...
Bet 2% of bank level stakes.

This should deliver strong monthly profits to nearly doubling bank in most months, if all goes to plan..

Increase bet once bank has increased by 50% each time.

Reduce bets if we lose 33% of bank.

This is a safety measure, in money management, just in case the wheels fall off.
You may never need it , but its very strong psychological plan to have in place.
I call it the "What if plan"

That way we are always in control of what's happening around us now , not what should happen in the future.
That's where punters shoot themselves in the foot.
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Old 5th June 2011, 09:17 PM
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Hi Mattio,

Sorry, but can I ask why you wish to email me with questions, that cant be asked on this public forum.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a forum?

Or is it something special ?
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Old 6th June 2011, 11:03 AM
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=> Bhagwan, when do you believe is the best time before the race to check for the 3rd fav? I have noticed the 3rd changes a lot between 10 mins prior, 5 mins prior and 1 min prior.
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Old 6th June 2011, 11:46 AM
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Today I watched the lead up to the race on Unitab and in particular the pricing. Here is how it went down:

5mins 9 5 11 1 6
4mins 9 5 6 11 8
1mins 9 5 11 6 4
0mins 9 5 11 6 8
CLOSED 9 5 6 8 11

Result: 11 paying 12.90
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Old 6th June 2011, 12:10 PM
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2nd race for the day is SEYMOUR2

5mins 2 13 12 11 7
3mins 2 12 10 12 7
1mins 2 13 7 10 12
0mins 2 13 7 12 10
CLOSED 2 13 7 12 10

Result is 12 paying 7.80
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