Smartgambler
Pro-Punter

Go Back   OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums > Public Forums > Horse Race Betting Systems
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark all topics as read

To advertise on these
forums, e-mail us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 26th April 2011, 02:20 PM
marksto2 marksto2 is offline
Suspended.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 99
Thumbs up An Awesome Laying System...Please check

Hi Guys,

I believe the following will be an excellent laying system potentially on a set and forget basis or Betfair SP or flat stakes laying.

1) Horses that ran 2nd last start
2) Resuming from a spell
3) Win % under 20

Can someone see what the overall results are by using a system builder or database?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26th April 2011, 08:14 PM
luv2bet luv2bet is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 939
Default

hi marksto,
I dont think there would be much action with those rules. Not many horses run a 2nd then are sent to the paddock for a spell..
Or have I missed something?
__________________
get in the Q
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26th April 2011, 08:39 PM
marksto2 marksto2 is offline
Suspended.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 99
Default

The form should read as follows

2X

I believe the focus should lead to lower prices with a high risk of losing and an overall profit on turnover. This is the theory and from observations.

Tomorrows selections would be. I would also advise to limit the price to say under $8 or $10.

Cant R2 - 9
3 - 4
5 - 6

Ascot R4 - 8
8 - 12
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 26th April 2011, 09:44 PM
Bhagwan Bhagwan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 2,428
Default

It should work just fine.


Here's another Lay Plan to have a go at , it has been performing very well .

RULES
.Target TAB No.1

.Lay price to be approx $3.50-4.50

Lay Bet 1.5% of bank , level stakes.


Profit objective 1.75% a day then STOP for the day.
This equates to approx 50% a month.

It works a treat.
__________________
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 27th April 2011, 08:36 AM
raldridge raldridge is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 35
Default An Awesome Laying System

I checked this back 6 months in Neale Yardley's Bet Selector program and got these figures
races 477
bets 522
longest lay collect run 32
average payout odds using NSW tab odds 3.73
showing -50.6% when win backed on NSW tab.

would need to be checked using actual Betfair lay odds of course
but looks very good.
I presume this is a win lay method not a place lay method?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 27th April 2011, 06:48 PM
marksto2 marksto2 is offline
Suspended.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 99
Thumbs up

Hi Ralridge,

Are these stats for my system below of Bhagwans??

The selections I mentioned below all lost and at favourite and near favourite odds. I wish I had insight into a database of results as I believe this will be highly profitable.

Cheers,
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 27th April 2011, 07:24 PM
Bhagwan Bhagwan is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 2,428
Default

That -50.6% LOT TAB prices, is the type of figure we like to see.

Betfair usually pays 20% more ,therefore, the Betfair result would have been

approx -30% LOT which is a profit to us, when lay betting.

Thanks for testing that.

Well done.
__________________
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 27th April 2011, 08:03 PM
raldridge raldridge is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 35
Default An Awesome Laying System

Hi Mark,

The test I did was on your lay method not Bhagwan's.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 27th April 2011, 08:03 PM
domenic domenic is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 16
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by marksto2
Hi Guys,

I believe the following will be an excellent laying system potentially on a set and forget basis or Betfair SP or flat stakes laying.

1) Horses that ran 2nd last start
2) Resuming from a spell
3) Win % under 20

Can someone see what the overall results are by using a system builder or database?
I have run this from today back to Jan 1 2010, NSW dividends.

Races; 1284
Bets; 1387
Wins; 195
Strike Rate; 15.2%
Ave Win Div; $4.98
Loss $; -415.50
LOT; -30.00%
Ave Starting Price; $14.40

Best of luck with it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 27th April 2011, 08:12 PM
marksto2 marksto2 is offline
Suspended.
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 99
Default

Thanks so much Domenic. Really appreciated.

I am actually thinking of a maximum lay price cut off of $10. Not sure if this will improve the bottom line.

Assuming Betfair odds are 20% better than NSW TAB prices then this should easily make a 10% profit on turnover if I am reading correct?

Cheers
Mark
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 06:01 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2008 OZmium Pty. Ltd. All rights reserved . ACN 091184655