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Old 22nd January 2005, 06:53 AM
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For sanity's sake, I like the stop betting at a meeting when a winner is struck
idea !!

Manipulating a price and progression staking betting method until it fits [creates] a profit result from the betting publics past stats, and applying this to the future, will probably and eventually just end up at the public's losing result, because no real stats. have been changed. They have just been rearranged.

By not betting on races less than 1100m., F&M races. and any favourite carrying more than 57kg. a real improvement might be gained because it changes the public stat. input criteria. I know this is adding a form study aspect to the method here, but it is unobtrusive and easy to include. Using even one of these rules should make a worthwhile difference.
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Old 22nd December 2005, 09:59 AM
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Just thought it was time to re-visit a few old favourites from the "Betting Systems Forum". It seems to be lacking inspiration at the moment!

Anyway, a Happy Christmas to all.
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Old 16th July 2007, 11:43 AM
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An angle that seems to work well using this idea is to use this staking plan bolting 2 venes together.
That way if one venue is a dud the other usually producers one or more results.

Do this in lots of 2 venues each time rather than using it right accross the board.
It usually minimises the outlays to risk as well.

Check it out using 2 venues at a time for each bet sequenc.

If there are 8 venues on the day , one could have 4 batches of 2 for each bet sequence.

Try & remember to stop betting if 9 outs in a row is struck then recommence once a winner finally gets up.

I feel this idea would work best using say the IAS bookie prices that way one knows what the price is going to be once the bet is place.

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Old 5th January 2008, 10:48 AM
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Hi Jack,
Here is that plan again.

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Old 5th January 2008, 09:34 PM
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The old adage about not being able to help a system that can't win at level stakes rings true again....... I ran this system over 8327 races, using SuperTab final dividends, this was the result:


Races: 8327
Outlay: $21,033
Collect: $18,191
Nett: -$2841
%: -13.5%
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Old 6th January 2008, 10:22 AM
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That's interesting.
Can I ask what the longest consecitive run of outs was?

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Old 6th January 2008, 02:17 PM
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Yes - the longest run of outs was 18.
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Old 6th January 2008, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
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The old adage about not being able to help a system that can't win at level stakes rings true again....... I ran this system over 8327 races, using SuperTab final dividends, this was the result:


Races: 8327
Outlay: $21,033
Collect: $18,191
Nett: -$2841
%: -13.5%


Unfortunately I can confirm that!
Not only that, but I ran it using price limits like >1.5 and <=2.2 etc.
All that changed was the strike rate, but always in the negative by a greater margin than could be crawled back by staking.
Sorry folks the 15% TAKEOUT IS JUST TOO MUCH.
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Old 6th January 2008, 03:42 PM
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Correct, and I posted the findings in the old thread months ago.

Why is it that so many are mesmerised by turning a loss into a profit, why not start with a profit and work from there, the chances of success are multiplied.
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Old 7th January 2008, 03:47 AM
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Hi Grand Armee,
Thanks for your input.
With that run of 18 in a row, was that taking into account of stopping after 9 (outs as stated in the plan),then restarting once one got up?

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