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Old 4th August 2006, 11:49 AM
michaelg michaelg is offline
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Wink Unitab 100 Pointers

I was looking at Unitab ratings where there is an outright 100 Pointer and was unplaced at its last start - the results from 1 Aug are quite promising. Maybe Unitab sees something in them. For example, the selection received interference at its last start, or was badly ridden, etc. The results are (Unitab divvies):

Tuesday 1 Aug.
6 selections.
2 winners for a return of $7.60
4 placegetters for a return of $8.10

Wednesday 2 Aug.
20 selections.
9 winners for a return of $33.30
13 placegetters for a return of $21.40

Thursday 3 Aug.
18 selections.
6 winners for a return of $33.10
12 placegetters for a return of $27.40

Overall, there have been 44 selections.
15 winners for a return of $74.00
29 placegetters for a return of $56.90.

If anyone's interested, today's selections are:

MACKAY
R1 no.2
R3 no.7
R4 no.2
R5 no.7
R6 no.5
R7 no.7

GUNNEDAH
R3 no.4
R5 no.1
R8 no.9

SWAN HILL
R3 no.5
R6 no.6
R7 no.8

QUEANBEYAN
R1 no.3
R2 no3
R4 no.4
R5 no.3
R6 no.3
R7 no.3
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Old 5th August 2006, 09:06 AM
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From yesterday's eighteen selections there were five winners paying $20.70, and eleven placegetters paying $19.20.
Twenty six selections today:

ROSEHILL
R6 no.7

CAULFIELD
R1 no.2
R4 no.3
R5 no.8
R7 no.1

DOMBEEN
R1 no.5
R3 no.4
R4 no.5

CHELTENHAM
R1 no.9
R2 no.6
R6 no.13
R7 no.16
R8 no.9

GOLD COAST
R2 no.10
R3 no.13
R5 no.9
R8 no.3

WODONGA
R3 no.2
R6 no.2
R7 no.1

TOOWOOMBA
R2 no.1
R4 no.4

BELMONT
R2 no.5
R5 no.9
R6 no.11
R7 no.9
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Old 5th August 2006, 09:10 AM
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michaelg,

If I get around to it today I will write a program to get the results for you from this year ( Jan -> now ).

I might get a chance as my wife is sick in bed.

A couple of questions though ? Do you include races where more than 1 horse is rated 100 ?

Good Luck.
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Old 5th August 2006, 09:52 AM
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Wes,

Michael does say in his first post "outright " 100 rater. Would be interesting to see the results of your search if you are able to do it.

Michael,

Have been watching what you have posted here. Thank you. I'm a bit surprised that it has not elicited more comment. I went through last Saturday's selections in the hope that it might give us a bit of a lead on today. I know there are many factors; but.... for what it is worth:

1) Both win and place runners according to your rules made a profit --- the win bets just scraping in; place returning some 40%.

2) I scored all meetings on which Unitab gave an outright 100 rater. Cheltenham, Darwin, N.Z., and W.A. did not have a winner (out of a combined 7 starters), and Eagle Farm only one winner in three. (I am counting as a winner any return --- place or win.)

Whereas the other venues all scored with all their selections --- W.F 1; M.V 3 (one NTD); Wang. 2; Gold C. 3; Newcastle 3.


More importantly, I think, is to get some understanding of just what the 100-rater means. I suspect that they are produced by some sort of computer programme (Does any one know more about this?); whereas other threads here seem to suggest that the Unitab picks at the top, as well as the named tips, are produced by "humans". (Again, does anyone know for certain?)

Of course, this brings up the question as to the current value of the ratings. Is it a 100 rater because some time ago it had a flash in the pan and won three in a row in the bush, etc., etc..

Anyway, my tuppence worth. Good luck today.
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Old 5th August 2006, 10:36 AM
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Both Unitab and Techform ratings are computer generated - no human input.

Unitab concentrates on the peak recent run. Techform concentrates on the career peak run.
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Old 5th August 2006, 10:52 AM
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Thanks, Chrome. More grist for the decision mill .
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Old 5th August 2006, 11:08 AM
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I was looking at trying to cut down the number of bets, so going from the "bet everyday" thread, i looked to see if any selctions were in the top three radio tab
Wesmip. are you able to give separate results for metro and non metro?

MACKAY
3r x 2w $9.00, 3pl

GUNNEDAH
2r x 0

SWAN HILL
2r x 2w $4.90

QUEANBEYAN
4r x 0w, 3pl

11r x 4w $13.90
$13.20 place return
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Old 5th August 2006, 11:13 AM
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Note that Doomben R1 No. 5 is not a sole 100 rater.


The general impression that I got in doing the above research was that the 100 raters with last start "0" were sus., and that it would pay to be wary about 100 raters coming back from a spell.
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Old 5th August 2006, 11:39 AM
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Default I am finding this thread most interesting

Hi all, I havent been to this site for a little while now, and decided to look again, with a great deal of interest in this 100 point theory. Can anyone tell me in general terms how does on go about having a data base whereby you can just go back to say january which was mentioned and come up with all kinds of results,..???,.......I would love to be able to do this.

Good luck with this, I'll keep my eye on it, and look forward to seeing these past results.

Paul
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Old 5th August 2006, 11:45 AM
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Thanks for the input, everyone. I am under the impression that 100 pointers with Techform are not as accurate as Unitab, but that may not be the case even though I applied the rules to it from 1 Aug and it showed a loss for win and place.

I did not check last Saturday with Unitab but am pleased to see that they showed a profit, especially because my Saturday neurals can be hot and cold - I am under the impression the Unitab ratings are to a degree connnected to the neurals.

Merriguy, you are right - Dombeen R1 no.5 is not the sole 100 pointer and therefore it is not a selection. I hope it does well because I've already backed it. I have now checked those that finished last start with '0' and also first-uppers. The results are:

'0' last start.
7 selections for 3 winners paying $16.30. 4 placegetters paying $9.70.

First-up
6 selections for 2 winners paying $8.10. 3 placegetters paying $4.80

First-up with '0' last start.
3 selections for 1 winner paying $4.30. 2 placegetters paying $3.60.

So far it appears that they are worthwhile backing.

Wesmip1, I'm also interested to see what your research throws up.

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