what ive noticed with system development is that there's ONE filter which will make or break a system. i have one system that goes from a +60% POT to barely break even and the difference is ONE filter, not the parameters of that filter, but the ACTUAL filter itself. Anyone else confirm this in their findings?

100% IMPORTANT for mine ..... Filters in systems must fit hand in glove with each other, each filter must have a nexus with each other filter.

and of course when you introduce a new filter be aware that it really is a difficult task to identify the value of this new filter.

to those who ask exactly what my systems are, how profitable, selections etc, ..... "give a man a fish and you feed him for one day ..... teach him how to fish and he can be fed for a lifetime" .....

What I've noticed is that you continually get members curiosity going with a statement that you have found something substantial like turning a system from break even into 60% POT , and then not say what it is.
And many members curiosity turns into angst because you never elaborate.

Its not a matter of fish or fishing.
Share something of substance.

Don't post "I know something special but I'm not gonna tell you what it is"
Don't do that Barny.
It's very annoying.

The same can go for ratings, some will use 20 different variables and other will use 5 and can come up with the same selections or vary similar.

With selecting the right bets you need to use the K.I.S.S principle.

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For me the most effective filter is price fluctuation.
The difference in return between drifters and steamers is staggering.
Couple that with just one good filter (any good filter) and it's happy days.

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I HAVEN'T posted anything special, they're comments that's all.

Don't bother reading general stuff if you prefer to read systems with POT's etc.

My 60% POT system is what the result shows up after it has searched !! My post here moeee is about how little there is between success and failure. Your intelligence in these matters is astounding.

Leave me alone moee and go lose some money somewhere else.

Do you have a database moeee? do you have 6 odd years worth of hard copy data moeee or are you just trying to scunge stuff for free on here. Well I'll tell you something moeee, you will struggle to find your pathway to riches on here if you blindly follow what look like winning systems, HOWEVER, you WILL become educated if you read and "INTERPRET" correctly (which may be near impossible for you) some of the more informative posts.

Obviously you've got wortk to do in this area.

I doub't you could find a winning system if you had the best database in the world moeee.

Go TOU that moeee, that's your strength !

If you dont understand it ..... you don't like it !!!! do you ?????

and you still cant spell disappointed moeee ..........

BEFORE you TOU me moeee, ask those who have a decent database how easy it is to come up with a system that will show you at least a 60% POT.

...........it aint that difficult, it's the next part that's hard.

Interesting call CP - a couple of Qs if I may...

When you say "staggering", are we talking a difference in SR of say 3-5x, when using the one good filter ?

Any suggestions for easiest way (= website?) to track what is steaming, what is slipping?

LG

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Yes Betchoice track odds, it's the movements on track from the bookmakers ring. APN send this data off track and Betchoice publish them.
There is a massive difference in strike rate for favoured horses, but the real difference is in the returns of unfavoured horses which drift or steam.

(Sorry norisk, I did it again!)

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Just to be clear here, DO you mean - the one's I fancy (via 1 good 1 filter) which the market doesn't = drifters.. If they salute, I make a killing?

OR do you mean.. the unfavoured horses which drift are usually a poor betting proposition which generally provide a LOT over the longer term??

LG

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