Photon Willie got the chocolates @ $4.80 BFSP (net)
At the 200m mark he really showed his stride briefly, but then shortened stride trying to eyeball his stable and nearly turned it up at the 50m mark.
I think a set of blinkers is in order.

Altius disappointed again, as I expected.
You could see his ability in the run, but his stride is too short with very limited burst of speed that can't be maintained.

Well done Tayjack on your call on Velrosso!

Octavia just held on to win @ $3.12 BFSP (Net)

So far the "stable" has had four starts for two winners, one second placing and earned $156,750 in prizemoney.
Betting action is plus 3.92 units.

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Adding to the Stable of striders:
Bonne Nuit
Gregers
Henwood
Honorius*
Montgomery
Octavia
Pakal*
Photon Willie
Puissance De Lune*
Rain Affair
Recycle Prince

The stable has 11 horses in work, and will add to it until the stable is full of 20 striders to follow.

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Nice bunch you have added chrome, watching some replays this morning, couldn't disagree with any of those.

Well, photon willie, right you are(and were) when, he nearly lost the plot inside the 100, and when the jock let him slide up at the 400 he was bolting, and as you say that stride came into play into the home straight, looked to me as though he was doing it easily. Watching it a few times again, im not sure that the horse really even died on its run, it was just that he switched off and wanted to head for his stable that probably decreased the winning margin.

Yep blinkers next time.

Wasnt too sure what to make of altius, not one of nash's best?? Probaby not, but the winner did it comfortably in the end, and as stated, just doesn't look like he can or would be up to black type.

Best tj

I thought that also about PW, Tayjack.

Windsucking or Cribbing.

Windsucking or Cribbing is when a horse bears down on a fence post or in his stable with his front teeth, tenses his muscles and draws in huge gulps of air.
This is usually accompanied by licking the post or rail and can vary from moderate to constantly doing it.
This habit is particularly rife in racehorses which are stabled most of the time.
Trainers tend to put on a restrictive collar which limits the airway, but this is not addressing the root of the problem nor the causes.

This is a terrible thing for horses, it causes their teeth to wear down prematurely, usually resulting in their inability to chew at all and they have to be put down. It also causes ulcers in their stomach and bouts of colic.
Quite a few horses have to be put down after more than one bout of colic.

Most trainers and horse owners don't know the reason for windsucking and simply put a collar on the horse, which temporarily stops it. It causes a lot of anxiety for the horse and is very difficult to address.

There has been much debate over the reasons for windsucking, but it is never learned behaviour from other horses, nor boredom as many speculate.
In very mild cases, the horse merely licks or chews on the lead rope or reins when it can.

Windsucking can be cured!

The reasons that horses start to windsuck are:
a) the horse is in pain and windsucking helps.
b) the horse is vitamin deficient.

The reason that horses continue windsucking when not vitamin deficient nor in pain, is that endorphens are released when they do it, so it becomes a habit that is very hard to break.

These are the steps to curing windsucking.

Take the horse's temperature and make sure it is not elevated.
Do a thorough blood test for vitamin deficiency.
(I suspect a lot of it is to do with lack of vitamin D and required salt levels)
Take the horse's resting heart rate and respiration rates.
Take the horse outside in the sun without a blanket or rug and let it graze for half an hour. (Note if there are flies concentrated in one place only on the horse, flies are attracted to inflammation and infection).
Check the horse's gait, if it is choppy or favours one side or one leg.
Check the eyes are not dull or milky.
Look at the coat to see if it's a bit dull.
Have a horse osteopath check the horse for joint or muscle pain.

Change the horse's feeding frequency, instead of feeding two or three meals a day, make the servings smaller and more frequent.
(horses are grazing animals that produce acid in their stomach, when there is no frequent food, this can lead to stomach ulcers).

When all the above has thoroughly been ruled out, then it is a habit, and addiction, that needs to be addressed by natural horsemanship techniques.

From a breeding and training perspective, windsuckers have a very poor future. They are expensive to own and usually accompany very high vet bills.
They also damage property and can be hard to handle if wearing a collar (they are very anxious).

From a punting perspective, windsuckers are horrible investments, they rarely win, because they either have stomach ulcers, lack vitamins, or are in hidden pain.

One should particularly look on track or in the gear change list for these items:

Cross over noseband (stops the horse opening it's mouth)
Tail chain (stops the horse drawing air in through it's rear)
Other more obvious gear changes, but very rare are:
Muzzle
Windsucking device.

If on track, go around the stalls and check out the horses wearing windsucking collars.

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I should have actually qualified my statement about crossover nosebands, they are also used for horses that over race with their mouths wide open. So looking at crossover nosebands alone won't tell you it's a windsucker, but it's an indicator to dig deeper.

Why they don't put blinkers on Photon Willy is beyond me.
It isn't like they are trying to get better odds next time out.
Even a shadow roll would make him concentrate on where he's going.
Perhaps there will be some gear change next start, or I'll be at a complete loss.

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I was at a complete loss on Saturday too Chrome, Race 7 Rosehill, Sadler's Wish. Now last campaign the horse had 5 straight wins in a row at min distance of 1900m. This time round they put it in a 1300m & 1400m and, do they wonder why it came 13th & 14th?? Who knows, it's not rocket science, it stood out like the proverbial, so I Layed it for a bundle to lose, cheering!, but why do they do this??

RP

Often they are non triers, getting the horse race fit and then, whammo at good odds, so might be worth blackbooking Sadlers Wish for the next start at the right distance.

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Not wrong!!

Interesting abut the windsucking(i will be delving deeper). But surely a leading stable has to be on the ball about this, or any stable for that matter.

You'd think so TJ, but it's more common than one would think.
For example, most stables have at least one or two windsuckers in there.
At Caulfield I counted five windsuckers in the stables.
My nephew is working with racehorses in the UK, and he told me it's a real problem for the trainers over there.
They just whack a collar on the poor horses, and that's about it!

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Evening Chrome.

Not wanting to sidetrack this thread mate but had a quick question for you; Are you able to suggest the best/easiest way to determine if a horse is naturally suited to being riden off the pace i.e. from the form guide?

Cheers LG

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