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Old 13th May 2005, 02:20 PM
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Does anyone here evaluate racing programs ?
For some reason I keep getting spam with offers and each time I block their email address, another one comes back with different details but similar wording.
I asked the obvious questions on some of their free toll numbers, "why do they sell race progams" and usually they try to evade the question, but with persistance it comes down to commisions on sale of these various types of programs.
How can one tell if any of these are really what they say they are ?
Are there any recommedations from members here who use a racing program which is worth a proper look ?
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Old 13th May 2005, 02:41 PM
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Hey Bluetown,

Looking for independent advice, check out punters choice (google) they provide an excellent evaluation of all systems, programs, ratings etc. As a rule I would avoid anyone that contacts you looking to sell you anything.

Be cool
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Old 13th May 2005, 02:51 PM
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with all honesty they are just junk...there are only a few programs that are any good and these are ones that are fully programable yourself or have tools to help you....if you want to stop the spam use this program..it is very good and free

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
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Old 14th May 2005, 08:43 PM
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Those phone blowers have to be avoided like the plague, they usually cost $10,000, they usually say that it follows the smart money , I wish it was that simple.
The mear fact that they change their spots when you try to avoid them has to be a massive warning to start with .
They may say there is a money back guarantee , but try & get it back without going to court.
If you are going to have a free trial , make sure you have your radio on to listen to that particular race , there will be discrepancies.

You have been politely warned.
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Old 15th May 2005, 08:41 AM
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Perhaps I have been misunderstood to.
I am under no illusions,delussions or allowed to be misguided by those pertaining to sell systems from beaches,blondes and laptops.
It was once a "serious" look at thier offers, then their persistance became a form of entertainment, but now some are pests,it's beyond the joke.
I did tell them I AM looking to buy a system after it has been checked and inspected on my terms.

One of those terms is, I will only deal with the developer/user of the system. There has been no response yet.

There are the good one's as mentioned here before I even posted my question.
Gtx to name one of them. None suit my requirements.Gtx system types, or the form based, it seems one has to know a fair anount of knowledge on the fundamentals of horses,jockeys,tracks,blinkers on or blinkers off Etc.

The other type of systems seem to deal only with numbers, Odds for example with terminologies of "smart money", "Betfair", "Tobe" etc. These systems it seems, do not require a large amount of knowledge on form.

Either system/program type does not seem to allow the user full independance of the actual workings of the program.
I want to be able to manipulate what the program actualy does to my requirements and specifications.
Are there any of those types of programs on the market to view ?
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Old 15th May 2005, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluetown

Either system/program type does not seem to allow the user full independance of the actual workings of the program.
I want to be able to manipulate what the program actualy does to my requirements and specifications.
Are there any of those types of programs on the market to view ?


Hi!
I doubt if you will find one like that on the market.

The reasons are many, for instance even if you were given a full source code, (unlikely) you would have to be familiar with the programming language it was written in to make use of it

Secondly you could buy a programme with many options to set it up to your requirements, but how would the creator of the software know what do you want before you have bought it?
The other option is to have one written to your own specs. BUT your specs. will change as time goes on so I think the only realistic option is to do it yourself.
Many on this forum do just that.
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Old 15th May 2005, 02:44 PM
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marcus25
The program I am trying to describe does actualy exist, but is no longer available. There are 3 users of I have heard of who use this type of program but have asked for privacy therefore I respect their wishes.
And another user of a similar program but have lost contact or is no longer replying, and wondering if anyone has heard of similar programs available where it's source code is accesssable under certain conditions
to it's structre ?
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Old 15th May 2005, 02:57 PM
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marcus25
The program I am trying to describe does actualy exist, but is no longer available. There are 3 users of I have heard of who use this type of program but have asked for privacy therefore I respect their wishes.
And another user of a similar program but have lost contact or is no longer replying, and wondering if anyone has heard of similar programs available where it's source code is accesssable under certain conditions
to it's structre ?

Sorry mate!
I roll my own so don't really follow the commercial ones. If you would send me an email about it I could ask around.
marcus_aurelius_25@hotmail.com
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Old 16th May 2005, 09:30 PM
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Some License agreements can make projects possible according to these laws.
So the idea is not obsure and diverse as many would like to assume.
All I am saying is, why not racing programs ?

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
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Old 17th May 2005, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
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Some License agreements can make projects possible according to these laws.
So the idea is not obsure and diverse as many would like to assume.
All I am saying is, why not racing programs ?

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

Sure!
If you give me a commission to write a programme for you , "AND" want the source code as well as the exe file it will be at a different price.

But to give completely away the results of, sometimes a few months work to someone, to do with it as they please for a NORMAL fee is insane.

If you gave me the source code to a good working programme, I could dress up the interface and make some changes so that not even the originator would easily recognise it .
And I could market it as my own!!

I would not do it of course, and I don't think you would either but it could be easy.
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