Lindsay, I'm in !!!!

My wife suggested going to tools, internet options, advanced, and seeing if anything there was not ticked that I might need.

I ticked the box that allows downloads without verification. Right or wrong it now works.

Thanks again for you help.

Great stuff, still get the latest Java if you can, I just updated mine and it runs a lot smoother now.

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i think this discussion illustrates a very good point about betfair in australia.

notwithstanding 3 x population of UK (hence bigger pools).

it says to me, we as a nation, are not using betfair correctly and are way too simplistic or basic in our thinkings and approaches.
we are still media fed by gov supported tabs total **** about "you can back a horse to lose, people will be paying off jockeys" and other such banana republic ideas. this is what people (the public) think betfair is.

half informed punters, in the main, probably think "sure its a decent way to obtain better odds than the tabs/bookies/whoever they use". and that might be their involvement with it.

yet anyone inclined to do the research, put in the time, educate themselves....can see a world of opportunity opening up. greening up, laying,
automated betting, stop loss positions, volume tracking and other such things that chrome alludes to from time to time are all sound and solid everyday financial trading opportunities that a stock market player undertakes. and they are revered in doing so!!
i dont think its just UK population creating volume, i think a lot of it has to do with our simplistic view on things holding our volume back.
betfair is young...perhaps the tide will turn. perhaps there are enough out there making money who simply dont care about investigating what might be better ways. perhaps one day i will be allowed to use it again in WA.....that in itself says a lot about our faults.

There are a few old school heavy punters just starting to discover the advantages of Betfair. It's a catch 22 situation though, the low liquidity is holding them back. They are using it as an additional edge rather than the sole investment portal.

In the UK, Betfair has a much higher profile and has been marketed better, so many young traders have discovered the opportunites. There are a hell of a lot of traders using Betfair there. There is not the Government opposition either, that they have faced here.

Traders (not punters) have not really discovered Betfair yet - they don't know about it. The one's that have, have more than likely considered it a gambling site rather than a trading opportunity.

I'm sure liquidity will improve dramatically when this trading facility is discovered by traders rather than punters, and word spreads.

I forsee the upturn in volume, coming not from punters, but from traders who know nothing about horseracing.

It's really a matter of time.

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Chrome

Thanks for the BetTrader Pro tip. I'd had a look at previous versions of this but didn't like the "Ladder Interface", and the timed usage model. The new version with the "Grid Interface" looks good, and you can't complain about the price, although a few too many flashing doo-dads so I've turned these off. Will make alot of use of the timed bets/lays, but some of the other tools seem a bit incomplete to me. The "Price Chaser" could be really useful but there's no way to set an upper or lower limit. The "Drip Feed" - great tool again but no upper or lower limit

Have to agree it's streets ahead of Fairbot. I'll put it through it's paces on Saturday

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"It's worth remembering that profit isn't profit until it's spent off the racecourse." -- Crash

Instead of using the last traded price you can nominate a price, then fill or kill and then schedule a timer bet with fill or kill.

But I get your point, there is no between.

The one feature I do like, is you can specify the bet based on account balance, that way the bets only get matched if your account balance is going up

The flashing lights were also a bit nasty, but now I find them valuable, you can see if the matched amounts are all going down or haphazard (red, yellow, green, red, yellow, red, green, green).

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A typical example of scanning the low liquidity markets, R3 Bendigo Sky Devil is $1.70 with the bookies and $2.04 on betfair, that's 20% better, so I've backed it, it went to $1.90 with the bookies, but I'm still ahead of them.

It went up as high as $2.00 with the bookies, but came back to $1.80, so I know the reaction will come on Betfair.

On the deathknock I get matched @ $1.95 to lay it.

Profit guaranteed.

That's 9 ticks profit, just using logic rather than ladders.

Of course the favourite ran nowhere, and that's why greening up is a must.

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I've taken the program off my site now, as it was only ever there to help Mark who couldn't get it to work. Anyone interested should be getting it from the proper site.

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im thinking only just at the mo..coz of the shaz.ive been lookin at the pommy6 races and so far ive noticed if one is to follow prices ,<2min ....might be the way to go

Hi Chrome I use Fairbot and it has a "Greening Up" feature - This allows you to equalize a current profit or a current loss across all selections. Its the button after the name, it will light up green just press it and it will do all the calculations for you.