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Old 18th November 2004, 07:30 PM
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If you had of backed the top eight jockeys at Ipswich today...
Only four were riding

J POWELL....5 Rides P/L.$6.4
G COLLESS...6 RIDES P/L.$15.1
S SCRIVEN...2 RIDES P/L.$3.4
S KATSIDIS..1 RIDE P/L.$1.9

Outlaid $14
Return $40.8
P/L $26.8
POT% 65.6%

DONT KNOW IF IT MEANS ANYTHING AS IVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE...
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Old 19th November 2004, 09:15 AM
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There is plenty of logic behind your thinking.

Jockeys pay their Managers to get them good rides.It's clearly in both of their best interests to get results.

I'm sure there are plenty of forumites who would like to know how you are going including me.Good luck with it...
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Old 20th November 2004, 12:00 AM
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so how do you get the jockeys stats for each track

ive seen them for just country and metrop
not broken down
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Old 3rd January 2005, 08:15 AM
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So,,,how's it going ??????
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Old 3rd January 2005, 08:04 PM
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I wonder how you would go if you had a change from a non- winning jockey to a top rider and the horse had ran 2nd or 3rd last start.?
The theory being that the trainer expects a win.
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Old 3rd January 2005, 10:52 PM
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I wonder how you would go if you had a change from a non- winning jockey to a top rider and the horse had ran 2nd or 3rd last start.?
The theory being that the trainer expects a win.
Cheers.
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I and a lot of other people took a chance on just the opposite case at Bunbury last week. After having a good jockey the previous 3 rides (including a last start win) Spirited Gem started favorite with an apprentice on it's back in race 7. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth when he fell off at the 900m mark. Based on that performance you may have a good point there darky.
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Old 4th January 2005, 09:03 AM
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I was idly number crunching jockey strike rates.This sent a chill through me because several similar examples popped up.

I looked in racenet and saw what appeared to be a definite bias towards certain tracks by particular jockeys.Ahhh I thought,it's the old horses for courses theory.

Here is an example....

P.Graham (who I see ride a lot around the local traps)

Muswellbrook....101 rides for 5 winners and a strike rate of 5%
Port Macquarie..146 rides for 25 winners and a strike rate of 17.1%

Sticks out like the proverbial dog's balls doesnt it ???

Except......

At Muswellbrook his total placings (including wins) are 47.This gives him an overall strike rate of 46.5%

At Port Macquarie his total placings (including wins) are 73.This gives him an overall strike rate of 50%

Over all of the tracks that he attends his total strike rate is 48.4%

Is he unlucky at Muswellbrook ?? Lucky at Port Macquarie??? Or is he simply a very consistent rider???

It's a worry this racing game.....Anyway,, my Mrs is just fixing dinner for tonight.Spiced chicken breasts.I can bet on them.
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Old 4th January 2005, 09:41 AM
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Quote...Munce was forced to ride Wicked Wizard with his weight on the right side of the horse and his left leg was dangling in the breeze.



Perhaps this will be the answer ?????
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Old 4th January 2005, 03:42 PM
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KENNY VICTOR.
Being an old cynic from way back I might bet Spirited Gem next start.
The jockey fell off eh.
Might be looking for a price.
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Old 6th January 2005, 12:36 PM
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Peter Graham starts 2005 with a bang
Mid north coast jockey Peter Graham has certainly kicked of the New Year on the right foot booting home nine winners already this year.
Graham started the year at the Port Macquarie non-TAB meeting with a winning double aboard the Tas Moreton-trained Blue Cougar and the Bob Graham-trained Prince Of Opera.
The following day he ventured to Inverell for their Cup meeting. Not only did he win the Inverell Cup but also he racked up four winners for the day. The first aboard the Mark Mason-trained Nine Bells and then followed it up with wins aboard the Mark Gwynne-trained Zelotti, Simply Viv for Dean Smith and Tree Lopper for Leon Fox in the Inverell Cup (1400m).
Then yesterday at Port Macquarie he continued his great form riding a treble. Two of his winners were for trainer Debbie Prosser in Seekadane and Bingara. He capped the day winning aboard the Peter Cooper trained Glenrock Ace.


Good call Syllabus!
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