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Old 4th February 2014, 02:46 PM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
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Simply cannot get set for decent amounts on anything other than the first two firmers in the market. I've abandoned the rest of the day in disgust.
Now most of my betting has (by necessity) to be on UK and Ire.
Grandpa nap and then up for some decent markets.

Premium Charges suck!
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Old 4th February 2014, 04:03 PM
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Premium Charges suck!


I just finished typing another email to Tim Manson. 2 days ago I queried my statement and the premium charge. I was specific in all details. Never got a reply, so chased him up again. All he sends back is the Premium Charges rules transcript. His answer is just a cut & paste. So I've had to fire back again!

The trouble with their rules fineprint is it's just that, toooo fine! Just on that, I note their rules are all based on the mother currency pounds. Now I'm no corporate lawyer, but I would have thought it illegal for an Australian registered company to use a foreign currency in it's terminology? How does an Australian consumer relate to it, in terms of understanding it's value....."They mislead me your honour, as I equated pounds to meaning dollars??"
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Old 4th February 2014, 06:48 PM
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I've found account managers to be very good, but when they forward something to another department for investigation, all you get are cut and paste responses. Very frustrating when that response does not even cover your query.

Liquidity was dismal today, have to wait for Metro meetings only I think.
Problem is, I'm out working during Wednesdays and Saturdays with the neddies
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Old 4th February 2014, 07:03 PM
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You try and Lay $500L for a Place on a horse priced to Back for the Win at $48, and the Place SP is $835! It's a joke.
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Old 4th February 2014, 07:14 PM
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Looks like you are correct Chrome.. the system is 'broken', chaps. Are there no profitable hotspots left to pick amongst here?

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Old 4th February 2014, 10:53 PM
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There's plenty of angles LG, but can you get set?
Liquidity is dust....crickets.
It's like the harness markets used to be a few years ago, only much worse.
Time for a pint and pickle before GB races to make a nickle.
Aye up
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Old 5th February 2014, 05:12 PM
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I don't get the liquiditry problem. I can thousands on any of these runners :

This is Doomben R 7.

TotalMarketPercentage=0.9817202046992963

2. OFFSHORE ECHO = 34.0 / 32.0
3. BELTONIC = 14.5 / 14.0
4. FINAL JEST = 4.7 / 4.6
5. PURE COURAGE = 20.0 / 19.0
6. TOPKAPI = 12.0 / 11.5
7. VAN ROSSUM = 44.0 / 40.0
8. SOAKED = 12.5 / 12.0
9. TADDEI TONDO = 6.6 / 6.4
10. SPACE = 16.0 / 14.5
11. BEFITTING = 32.0 / 30.0
12. BERNIE OF BABYLON = 18.0 / 17.0
14. GRAND ORATOR = 40.0 / 38.0
15. MIGHTIEST = 9.2 / 9.0
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Old 6th February 2014, 08:05 AM
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Agree UselessBettor.

the whinging around here lately is a real putoff.
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Old 6th February 2014, 02:59 PM
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Only those that don't pay it have no reason to "whinge".
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Old 6th February 2014, 04:50 PM
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Agreed there are some metro races where the liquidity is reasonable, but most others it's almost ridiculous.
Two minutes to go at Geelong and if you want a decent bet, you're restricted to first and second favourites. Anything else is a waste of time.
Unless I bet in $5 lots, there's just no hope of getting matched.

I also think there a message here that some might have overlooked.
Yeah, I had a whinge, and I believe rightly so, but even if you overlook that aspect, there's a moral here.....

Whatever a system, approach, arb, method or ratings you have researched and come up with some figures, the real world question is - can you get matched.
And can you get matched at the odds required or is your money like a tumbleweed?
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