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Old 12th August 2011, 12:25 PM
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For the past week the following system has shown about a 10% POT on Place betting using Unitab divvies. Unfortunately I haven't bet them.

1) Default neural settings.
2) Outright top in the Dist category.
3) Max distance of 1,400 metres.

Unfortunately I haven't recorded the size of the fields.

Five selections today. We'll see how they go.

Geelong
3/9

Ipswich
1/7
6/2

Wagga
5/1
6/3
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Old 12th August 2011, 01:51 PM
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For the past week the following system has shown about a 10% POT on Place betting using Unitab divvies. Unfortunately I haven't bet them.

1) Default neural settings.
2) Outright top in the Dist category.
3) Max distance of 1,400 metres.

Unfortunately I haven't recorded the size of the fields.

Five selections today. We'll see how they go.

Geelong
3/9

Ipswich
1/7
6/2

Wagga
5/1
6/3
If interested I could check it for you before investing too much?
Cheers
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Old 12th August 2011, 02:39 PM
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lomaca, if you would please.

There's been two selections today that have already run - a first and a fourth.
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Old 12th August 2011, 06:36 PM
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lomaca, if you would please.

There's been two selections today that have already run - a first and a fourth.
Here you are Michael

Races tested 6646
total return $5986.72
POT -11%
S/R 40.26%

All races all tracks all race type included.
Does look like it has potential.

The last time I ran this programme was about two years ago and now it seems to be uncommon sluggish so I have to look at it before I can test this idea in more detail.
I included the test file printout that you can put into excel and see if you can find any clues.

The attached zip is a textfile that will easily import into excel as a "fixed width" text file.

Good luck
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Old 13th August 2011, 11:10 AM
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Here you are Michael

Races tested 6646
total return $5986.72
POT -11%
S/R 40.26%

All races all tracks all race type included.
Does look like it has potential.

Ran it on about 1400 Metro races and the loss is around 20% so leaving those out almost makes it profit neutral, which is not bad at all.
Although some tracks seem to do better than others.
All it needs is an other filter maybe size of field?

Have to fix this routine before I do any more testing, it used to take about 10 minutes to do 50 thousand races and now it takes over an hour to do just 5 thousand, strange?
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Old 13th August 2011, 11:44 AM
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Thanks, lomaca.

It's the usual story with the neurals - they don't perform too well with metro tracks.

Unfortunately I know zero about computers so I can't offer any suggestions about the problem.
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Old 13th August 2011, 08:48 PM
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Thanks, lomaca.

It's the usual story with the neurals - they don't perform too well with metro tracks.
Sorry Michael, tried different combinations of field-size they come close to breakeven but not winning, and the long outs will kill it for most punters.

Tried only the ones with at least 10 points diff between the first and second, it naturaly increased the S/R but the divies got very skinny.

The best is to try it on track by track, because, it may sound strange but different tracks behave differently, after over 12 years I still can't find a reason for this.

I will set it up and run it, will take a couple of days.
In the mean time the top rated if top rated in distance as well is not a bad proposition.

Good luck
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Old 15th August 2011, 11:34 AM
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Default Neural Distance

Only one today see how it goes
Launceston race 4 #1 Brave Mukky rated at $ 2.45
Good luck
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Old 15th August 2011, 02:30 PM
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Only one today see how it goes
Launceston race 4 #1 Brave Mukky rated at $ 2.45
Good luck
No qualifiers for Tuesday but try this one for a place $1.00 only it will be very long but can place (win???)

GOS Race 3 Maiden 15 Fayez

As always, good luck, we need it for sure.
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Old 16th August 2011, 10:12 AM
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lomaca, I've been looking at a lay method, and it seems that the higher the TAB number then the more chance it has of losing the race.

Based on this, is it possible to look at, say TAB nos. 1 to 4 in our Place method and see how it goes?

Thanks
Michael.
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