Smartgambler
Pro-Punter

Go Back   OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums > Public Forums > Horse Race Betting Systems
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark all topics as read

To advertise on these
forums, e-mail us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25th July 2013, 07:15 PM
Brett V.02 Brett V.02 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 56
Default Can Excluding Over-Bet Factors Make a Difference?

Hi All,

Having read a lot of the previous threads, one aspect that has always intrigued me is the concept of filters.

My intention of this thread is to look at when a filter becomes 'over-bet' and then as such, becomes a detriment to our profit.

My first contribution is Barriers - I have read on here, and believe that the inside barriers are over-bet. So with this in mind I took a system that had a little bit of success, and applied the filter, barrier 6 or wider.

The S/R dropped slightly but the POT lifted at a lot higher level.

Now I will preface this by saying, I do not have a database and have used a free source to look at the figures and I doubt if it is overly reliable, but all I did was run the system, then add the filter and the results were positive.

I am interested in 2 things:-

1 If the database guys out there have ever run this filter and does it return similar results?

2 Are there any other 'over-bet' factors people believe can have a similar effect.

Cheers

Brett
__________________
“Money, horse racing and women, three things the boys just can't figure out.”
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25th July 2013, 07:48 PM
UselessBettor UselessBettor is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,474
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett V.02
Hi All,

1 If the database guys out there have ever run this filter and does it return similar results?

2 Are there any other 'over-bet' factors people believe can have a similar effect.
1. Yes inside barriers are a well known to be overbet. The further out you get the more the profit it likely to rise.

2. Yes there are many. Some depend on the situation. For example first uppers who have won first up before are generally overbet, but resumers in general are underbet. There are many more situations like that as well.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25th July 2013, 08:26 PM
beton beton is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 589
Default

They are generally overbet for a reason. exploit the reason, don't go for next layer of low hanging fruit
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25th July 2013, 08:37 PM
Brett V.02 Brett V.02 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 56
Default

Hi Benton and UB,

I fear I have tried to feast on Low Hanging fruit for years.............

UB, I know you used to have a great site to test systems on, what happened to it if you don't mind me asking?
__________________
“Money, horse racing and women, three things the boys just can't figure out.”

Last edited by Brett V.02 : 25th July 2013 at 08:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 25th July 2013, 08:55 PM
darkydog2002 darkydog2002 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 4,332
Smile

I found under $3 for me were overbet and unprofitable and since I now wont bet anything under that the profit has increased considerably..
This applies to both wet and dry conditions.

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25th July 2013, 09:09 PM
beton beton is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 589
Default

Beware that by saying "I will only bet above my breakeven point" only moves the breakeven higher and greatly reduces the bets. It does not improve the bottom line. Moving away from the low prices may bring it into profit, but get too greedy and you run the risk of losing out. You are better to ask why the bets are overbet in a similar manner that RP did for longshots. Remove some obvious deadwood to improve the bottomline.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 25th July 2013, 09:37 PM
Brett V.02 Brett V.02 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 56
Default

Benton,

What if I fear I am the DEADWOOD!!!!!!
__________________
“Money, horse racing and women, three things the boys just can't figure out.”
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 25th July 2013, 09:48 PM
Lord Greystoke Lord Greystoke is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett V.02
Benton,

What if I fear I am the DEADWOOD!!!!!!
LOL you might be if you keep stuffing up his name?!

LG
__________________
The trick isn't finding profitable angles, it's finding ones you will bet through the ups and downs - UB
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 25th July 2013, 09:55 PM
Brett V.02 Brett V.02 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 56
Default

Wow,

Sorry LG and Beton............I have misread your name since the start of time

hahahahaha
__________________
“Money, horse racing and women, three things the boys just can't figure out.”
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26th July 2013, 12:59 AM
SpeedyBen SpeedyBen is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 464
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett V.02
Wow,

Sorry LG and Beton............I have misread your name since the start of time

hahahahaha
You can beton it, Brett.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 08:53 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2008 OZmium Pty. Ltd. All rights reserved . ACN 091184655