Is it a secret or was someone making the story up?

I will ask again....... how do we know these are Mark Read's ratings, there is no mention of him on the Qld site AND it would seem to be silly for a large bookmaker to be supplying ratings to a TAB am I the only one who thinks this way or is that the reason no body has answered my early question?

Doh

Bhagwan posted that about 3 years ago. Not totally sure what was the case then, but I'm pretty certain Mark Read has nothing to do with the Unitab ratings now. I think you'll find they are derived from a formula something like the AAP neurals.

Mark Read offers a service to the Hotels of his top chances with a price ,so as to bet the overs or bet the quinellas, one can have this service phone texted to them if required ,for a fee, he stated some time ago in one of his mail outs that Uni TAB commission his Wt. Rating service .

Anyway , who cares who supplied what , it is of use to someone or it`s not & it`s free.
Would it make any difference to anyone as to who supplied what.
Inracing have a similar service as does Wizard racing form guide as do a number of other services.

Mark Read is not just a bookmaker , he is considered one of the more progressive operators around.
He was the first to have a designated Hotel purely for betting on horses.With live vision from the track, before Fox was heard of.
He was one of the first to have online betting.
He set up in Darwin so as to get around the strange betting regulations in NSW. They saw something wrong with him using a mobile phone on course
He was the first to offer laying the Fav.
He was the first to offer best price fluctuations.
He was one of the first to use computers on course.
He was one of the first to display price aswell as odds on his boards.

He was the first bookie to supply legitament ratings information & the other Bookies thought he was crazy for doing that for Punters.
He saw nothing wrong about that because his book is set regardless of the outcome which is what real Bookies supposed to do.

I could go on.

Yes , it might appear unusual for a Bookie to do other things beside bookmaking to the average people .
But Mark Read is no average thinking chap , he is one of those types who tries to think outside the square.

He is not just "very good at sums and stuff."

Look at the DFS ratings as per NSW TAB , they pay for that service from an outside supplier .

The prices in the pre-post market as shown in the newspaper come from an outside bookmaker or service, not the newspaper people themselves.

Cheers.

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Cheers.

Hi Bhagwan

The ratings on Unitab are supplied by AAP, not Mark Read. If you read the fine print on the unitab website they state they are AAP ratings. They are not related to the neurals but are actually part of ther Fastform ratings.

Joe

Thank you for your reply Bagwhan, you sound well informed or on the IAS payroll

To me it's a big thing if Read supplyed the info as I have the utmost respect for his opinion and would delve into the ratings a little if this was the case

I am aware of the Read Ratings in pubs so again thank you for informing me of this great service

If the ratings are from AAP (more than likely) then they will prove to be erratic "ON THEIR OWN" as these are pure CLASS figures rather than fitness or form figues and this is something to remember when doing the form and should only make up around 20% to 25% of the horse selection criteria

Cheers big ears

Check out some of the 100Ptr divs in the last couple of days , that are $4.00= in the newspapaer pre-post.
There was one there that paid $17.00 , plus a bunch of others at reasonable prices.

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Cheers.

Bagwhan, I have read many of your posts with great interest. Like, you I am a big fan of Mark Read..bookmaker, racehorse owner, punter and visionary. He has been the one man in the game that I've admired the most. he was an outstanding rails bookmaker, and when he returned to Melb ring from Sydney, he almost always offered better odds on longer priced horses than the clicky Melb bookmakers circle. Yes, he made his own book and stood by it. Gutsy!


It would seem that the unitabqld ratings are supplied by AAP. This brings me to ask what people think of the neural ratings on offer on the aap website (free)

I find the wet track , distance, course and days since last run helpful. I tweak those up to the maximum, and the wet track up or down depending on track condition. Ive been looking at those selections which are 100 points or more ahead of their closest rivals. However, the time ratings seem to be largely responsible for the much higher rating figures, and Im not a huge fan of times as a significant factor.

Lately ive noticed these "100 plus points ahead of their rivals" horses winning or lsoing by the barest of margins most of the time. Not good for the heart if one has backed them lol.. If a horse rates streets ahead like that, and if time was the significant factor, then surely these horses should be winning by bigger margins most of the time?

Now, has anyone monitored ozeform.com.au free "hot tips"? (mark read again). They seem to have a pretty good strike rate, but I havent monitored them for any length of time.

Also, how would one easily price those qtab ratings..ie convert from numbers to assesed odds price?
Any thoughts?

Cheers
Steve

W924

I monitored the hot tips with a spreadsheet awhile ago for around 3 months.... and was in a loss situation when punting straight out, e/way and 1x3..... but the strike rate was good.... just couldn't turn a profit.

Even tried using as an anchor in exactas and tris and not much success there either...... (didn't keep the results, otherwise could of emailed them to you )

Can't remember if he has a past results page.....

Yours in Punting

Stix

Hi Stix,
many thanks for your comments, and generous info. on the OZEFORM Hot Tips.. I appreciate it. Some of their winners do lob at good prices...now if only there was a good way to nab them...

All the best
w924

Hello Bhagwan ( & All),
Bhagwan wrote
"Cick into http://www.qtab.com after 10.00am. on any day of the week . You will see Mark Reads assesed point ratings . I have found by backing the 100pt.runners paying $3.20 or more in the newspaper ,the reults over the last 200 races were this. 29% stike rate. Profit on turnover 20% What I found amazing is is the number of double figure winners that pop up e.g. on Wed.9th. $11.20 $15.20 I would recomend level stake betting using a bank of $1.00 for every $100.00 If more than one 100pt. selection in race back them both as long as they are $3.20 in newspaper. All bets could be placed at once ,great for busy people ."

I wonder if you would like to look at the staking methods employed by Howard Sartin. You back two in a race, 60% on shorter priced and 40% on the longer, PROVIDED that the price is greater than $3.50.... I have been following this for many years... have adapted it to not backing anything shorter than $3.00..... Any of you fellows out there with spreadsheets able to check if this is profitable or not.... I do this as well as take quinellas, trifectas on the same races.....
At one stage I used to get a ratings from Prowin ( I think it was called, it was from a bloke in S.A., who had offered it through the Ausrace Digest)
I was in touch with him and told him of the method and he found that it did throw up better profits than merely backing the top rated horse....
Look forward to any comments...